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Tip Of The Iceberg--The Beginning Of The End For Britain? {Brit returns hometown 2 assess Muslim}

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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:28 AM
reply to post by hammanderr

Why should we oppose these subcultures? Isn't our open mindedness what makes us better than the rest of the world? Aren't we the beacon of freedom on the planet? Yes we are but here's the issue. These subcultures are truly negative in nature. Black ghetto culture is so morally bankrupt and literally bankrupt that they actually rap about being on welfare and how easy of a life it is. Misogyny should never be accepted as a cultural idiosyncracy. Being illiterate and unable to get a job is not cool or good in any way. Eminem is 1 in 100,000,000. Your ghetto child has a very slim chance of growing up to be a successful rap artist and a high likelihood of being in prison or dead or just a loser in general. When did we stop taking pride in being the best in the world and start mistaking a complete lack of standards and decency with being open-minded? We used to be the conquistadors now we're afraid to tell muslims to shut up and illiterate gangstas to get a job and get off our block.

We are weak and stupid and will get what we deserve when our countries are conquered by strong, united, ruthless muslim extremists, that we will welcome as immigrants with open arms. And as our women are forced to wear burqas and swear allegiance to Islam the idiots that got us here will still be convinced that we are all racists and if we only just do as the muslim immigrants ask us to we will live in a truly discrimination free world.

INDEED. Well put.

However, the globalist oligarchy has engineered the glorification of ghetto gloom, gangsta glom AND Muslim monster marches etc.

It serves their purposes to

1. destroy the "OLD" ORDER
2. help genocidally depopulate the planet
3. cause the bloodshed, chaos and suffering their demonized leadership and their boss the king of hell so delight in.

They are determined to raise the satanic global government easier and faster on top of the ashes of the current overt setup . . . faster and easier than it would otherwise be.

Muslims are complicit eager accomplices as the Muslims have the fantasy that THEY will be on top and all else will be exterminated, eradicated, when the dust of the culture and religion wars settle.

The oligarchy has a different plan and plenty of power and money to accomplish the eradication of Isalm--as would be necessary for a world citizenry overtly worshiping satan as God.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:32 AM
How sad....I felt so sorry for that woman and the fact that the man began pointing his finger in her face the way he did would have set me off! Man or not..woman or not I felt compelled to punch him in the nose! UGH! I know two wrongs don't make a right but men should respect women and had that been a man there would have been a fight for sure.

When that woman said she looked naked and go get some clothes on... I wish she would have told her she looked like the grim reaper!

Rant over!

It is truly sad when one person much less a group believes they have the one and only truth and the rest of the human species is doomed for eternal fire. How absurd!

Its so ridiculous and how in the world can one or many change the thinking that is plaguing us?

I won't ever submit to someone else's belief system.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:32 AM

Originally posted by neformore
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Oh my. Another "all the muslims are evil thread"

Being a football (thats soccer to all you misguided people) fan, and having been around at the height of hooliganism I can remember crowds of thousands - and I really do mean thousands, tens of in fact, of people rampaging through cities chanting "kill kill kill the bill" - and then, in fact, setting off with the intention of doing just that. I remember one particular event in Manchester where I was let into a shop just in time and the doors were locked behind me as the City and United fans decided to have some "fun"

In fact, I witnessed the same chant just over a year ago at an EDL demo, coming from the EDL

And...weren't anti-police chants made at the Occupy rallies? And routinely at the G8 summits?

At at the recent UK riots?

But still, lets cherry pick a clip and run with it. Makes for good drama eh and helps to feed the obsession?

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

Right on bro... Yeah...

Lets just forget all about it...

Let it just multiply and not give a crap... We have all said it right?..

How about not...??

A few drunken footy idiots does not equate to a global political-religious system that is indeed taking over..

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:36 AM

Originally posted by neformore
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Oh my. Another "all the muslims are evil thread"

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

No. All Muslims are not evil but the ones who are are very dangerous.

Originally posted by neformore
But still, lets cherry pick a clip and run with it. Makes for good drama eh and helps to feed the obsession?

When it comes to Islamic extremism, there is no need to cherry pick.

While I admire your liberalism, you should research what you defend.

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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:36 AM

Originally posted by DarkSarcasm
Here's how I see it........

I don't care who you are or what your background or race or religion is, if you put my life or the lives of my family members at risk, then in my country, on my property, your wellbeing Is also at risk. It's called self defense and ill fight to the death for the freedoms, or lack thereof sometimes, of my family. I won't kill, just injure and incarcerate, those that want to try, will starve.

To add to you statement, Every citizen is bound by the Laws of that country they reside in. Plain and simple.
Islam's way of spreading is through Multiplication. If a citizen of UK broke the law, regardless of the race the citizen should be handled through the judicial system of that particular country. Most islamic countries have their own judicial system and they strictly enforce that in their own countries. Protests laden with opposing a ruling or outcome should be acceptable but protests condemning the local authorities and/or the foundational principals and laws of that particular country should be restricted. The UK citizens of islamic heritage knew very well (if not they should have been familiar) the laws of UK before entering the country. Certainly they cannot expect it to change them drastically after entering the country. They should be thankful that unlike most of the ME countries (where the voice of opposition is suppressed and crushed brutally by the ruling party), most western nations do not practice the method of crushing (its citizens) the opposition or protestors.

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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:36 AM
What bothered me the most in the video of the OP were those screams about Death to UK and death to UK police. I can't understand how some muslims in this thread try to justify everything that's wrong with their religion or the followers of that religion. I don't know how to name or to express the feeling I got after listening someone shouting DEATH to a country that gave him/her asylum, protection, freedom and a future. I mean this guys were shouting death to UK on UK soil and some users here have the nerve to talk about multiculturalism, tolerance, coexistence and non racism? I can feel for british people and what they're going through in situations like that. I mean is very human and nice to help the needy, to give them a roof, food, rights, welcome them at their homes (my country is my home), giving them a future, something they never would have in their countries of origin... All this actions are to be respected and seen as a sign of good heart and love toward the other but in the moment you bite the "hand" that had feed you, the hand that was laid to you in the moment of need, the hand that raised you from your knees and helped you keep your chin up and become a equal human being...You are committing the most ungrateful, disgusting and stomach revolting thing ever. I was shocked by the comments of that NINJAin burqa. She was judging a english girl, in her own town, in her own country accusing her to be undressed and seductive. So you come from a middle of a desert in my home, I give you rights, I make you equal, I give you the citizenship and call you british and you try to change my way of life, my way of dressing my culture, my believes?... I'm very glad that I live where I live, things like that don't happened. If it was to happened, I don't know how I'd be reacting. But for sure won't be tolerance and understanding at all.
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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Jace26
In fairness to the Christians, Brown Fellas did take "Their" Muslim religion to innocent "Heathens" around Africa, Europe, and Asia, and proceeded to destroy the local cultures in the name of Allah.

They most certainly did.

They also enslaved more people than the white African slave trade did, including about 1.25 million Europeans.

(1) Scholars estimate that about 12,000,000 Africans were sold by Africans to Europeans… …and 17,000,000 were sold to Arabs.

(2) The Muslim Barbary Corsairs, between the 16th & 19th centuries, enslaved between 1 million to 1.25 million Europeans by seizing them from as far away as Ireland & Iceland.

It is an interesting fact that at the time of the Spanish Armada, Barbary pirates were raiding the coasts of Britain & Ireland and seizing the populations of whole villages which were then sold as slaves in the Ottoman slave markets. Women were greatly preferred. Men were often castrated.

(3) The Ottomans also enslaved large numbers of Europeans either directly through their imperial colonial wars of conquest or as required tribute from already conquered European territories.

For instance, the famous Ottoman Janissaries were Christian Greek, Albanian, Serb, Bosnian, Ukrainian and Southern Russian slaves bought as young boys.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by ImaMuslim

Well... I reckon it boils down to one's personal choice:
I'd rather spend an eternity in Hell, than to succumb to the bigotry that Islam mandates.

See ya,

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:44 AM

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Why does Allah allow the stoning of women and homosexuals, why does Allah allow starving masses in Somalia. He sounds like a bit of a rotter to me. Not someone to be trusted.

When it comes to homosexuals, UK Muslims tend to be very anti-gay.

When 500 British Muslims were interviewed, none believed that homosexual acts were acceptable.

Also worrying, only 3% of UK Muslims believed that sex between unmarried people was acceptable.

The Guardian

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Danbones

the only way to win is not to play the game
as long as the instigators are instigating they will just keep the ball bouncing

lets say the queen and her priviledged and moneyied friends want it this way
(which they do or it wouldn't be happening)
what would you do then?

In brainstorming sessions throughout my education and career, I'd usually have 8-15 ideas while others had 0-3 at most.

On this one . . . I'm fairly stumped.

It seems to me . . . as I understand Biblical prophecy and globalism from studying both since 1962 & 1965 . . .

1. the satanic global government WILL arise and must be. God has decreed that all Creation will observe what happens even in America with the best form of government known from all of recorded history--that even then, apart from God, all turns corrupt, evil, blood thirsty, deadly.

2. The globalist oligarchy has abundant power, money, resources, personnel, exotic UFO type technologies . . . they are entrenched, pervasive, abundantly connected at every level . . . super !!!CONTROLING!!! and authoritarian.

3. It seems to me, only God and His more numerous angel armies will be able to withstand them and destroy them--and THAT IS CERTAINLY IN THE SCRIPT AND ON THE SCHEDULE--with the mop-up at Armageddon.

Until then, I think the wise

4. Walk as close to God as they possibly can . . . love Him with their whole being and others as themselves; do unto others; love and forgive even their enemies--even as they may have to destroy them forcefully where workable--MORE SPIRITUAL POWER WILL ACCRUE therefrom--walking according to HIS priorities, values . . . leading.

5. It will be true more than ever, THAT . . . we wrestle not against flesh and blood--ultimately--but against principalities and powers in high places, heavenly places. That will also mean destroying the enemy when led to and enabled to. Often it will mean literally and successfully calling down fire from heaven; calling for the earth to open up and swallow whole armies etc. But we're not quite yet to that day, yet. Rushing toward it but not quite there.

6. Until then . . . resist the Muslim onslaught in every legal way possible. Resist the globalist bustards in every legal way possible. Stay prayed up, prepped up; ready to go up; . . . at least ready to stand up and be counted on--on behalf of God and righteousness and The Kingdom of the King of Kings . . .

7. Tolkien will likely turn out to be more prophetic about the next several years than he ever imagined.


9. PRAISE GOD that the days WILL BE SHORTENED (else no flesh would be saved, as Scripture declares).

10. May God have mercy on all of good heart.

11. The Muslims marching in the video in the OP are just a hint of what's ahead . . . just a vicious scratch on the surface of what's ahead.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:45 AM
The fall out and war that is gonna come eventually from these lunatics is sad and frightening.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:55 AM
reply to post by ImaMuslim

The woman in red was not nearly naked.

Why don't you simply live and let live.

Believe in what you wish but let others believe in what they wish as long as none are harmed.

I would be interested in hearing you further post your thoughts on what gives Muslims the right to force the world to bend to your beliefs?

It is simply a power trip.

And you sell your daughters when they are still babies to old men to be raped.

Muslim men in Afghanistan use young boys to fulfill their pleasure (as hypocritical as the Catholic Priests)

You bury women up to their chest, arms pinned down and stone them.

Behead people, cut off limbs - I am not saying the western culture is perfect, but Islam is primitive, a lizard, serpent culture.......................spawn of the reptilians.

David Icke, which many laugh at is not far from wrong, all religions were invented to manipulate and control humanity.

“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest” - Denis Diderot quote (French man of letters and philosopher, 1713-1784)

Wake up and come into the 21st century - your people that follow "the old ways" are barbarians.

Come to my homeland, and try to force a veil or old man upon my grand daughter and you will see hell hath no fury like that of a Celtic Woman.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:57 AM

Originally posted by detachedindividual
It's shameful to see such intolerance in a community that suggests it's more enlightened than the rest of the ignorant sheep out there.

I agree. The intolerance in much of the Muslim community can at times be shocking.

Most Muslims are reasonable enough (apart from things like 100% of them beleiving that homosexuality was unacceptable - see post above.).

Its the Wahhabis who are causing almost all of the trouble.

Almost all terrorists come from Wahhabism.

Unfortunately, it has been Saudi Wahhabism which has been funding almost all the mosques built in the West.

An old article from about 10 years ago. Since then the number of US mosques has about doubled.

Of the more than 1,200 mosques in America, more than 80-percent were built with Saudi money, according to author Reza F. Safa.

In fact, Safa writes that the Saudis have spent “$87 billion since 1973 to spread Islam throughout the United States and the Western hemisphere.” Elsewhere in the world, it is believed that Saudi Arabia finances some 85-percent of the world’s mosques, where the vitriolic and violent Wahabbist interpretation of Islam is taught.

National Review

By the way, most normal Muslims want nothing to do with the hardcore Wahhabi.

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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 11:59 AM

Originally posted by ComeFindMe
"Blame the Muslims....they look different and think different things, so they must be to blame!"


To all those who claim to 'deny ignorance' those who claim to be reasoned thinkers....just step back and think what you are advocating, by making a sweeping generalisation on the character of a group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority.

Is it any wonder a group struggles to integrate when the indigenous population around them are so hostile?

This is the main issue. Islam in and of itself strives not to intergrate, but to change everything.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:00 PM
reply to post by gladtobehere

Hope she never steps foot in the US. Anti-government, anti-police marches especially in minority communities are quite common.

Yep! That's protected by the First Amendment, but you can bet your sweet ass that would be a "thing of the past" under an Islamic theocracy.

See ya,

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:00 PM
I'm just waiting for some extreme racist in a party such as the BNP to be given control of the country due to these out bursts.

For our friends who don't live in the UK, politician who belongs to the British national party openly brawled with a group of middle eastern men in the street while one of his friends video taped it.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:02 PM
I won't argue that there's a fair amount if Muslim extremists in the world. It is a problem that we all have to deal with, regardless if whether the cause is the Islamic faith itself or the result of constant war in that particular area of the world (or otherwise). However, I will say this:

Historically, the generalization of a group of people (collectivism) - and subsequent vilification of that group - has led to some of the most horrific and tragic events in human history. The holocaust, Stalin's purges, Mao's 'Counter-revolutionary' campaign, Rwanda, etc.

If this mindset continues to exist, there is no hope for peace, and no hope for the human race in general. It should not be the group of people we are condemning, but rather the behavior of individuals who - regardless of their reasons - would choose to impose their beliefs on another individual, or remove their rights.

posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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posted on Mar, 30 2012 @ 12:05 PM
reply to post by juleol

Take for example a town outside Malmø in Sweden. It has gotten so bad there now that the entire town is basically run on sharia laws with Swedish police having lost complete control over the situation.

That is not good, not good at all in my opinion.

How many poor innocent fellow humans have died or been tortured in the many names of "God"?

What is ironical is that we are all like drops of rain and "God" is the ocean - what one does to another he/she does to themself, they just don't see it do they?

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