What is matter? No one knows.

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posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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I'd rather be a person of sub-normal intelligence to than to be a fool that rejects proof and evidence...

I actually research the things I don't understand and even if they lead to a conclusion I don't like, I accept it because it is truth, and that is all that matters.




posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Baron01
 


I'd rather be a person of sub-normal intelligence to than to be a fool that rejects proof and evidence...

I actually research the things I don't understand and even if they lead to a conclusion I don't like, I accept it because it is truth, and that is all that matters.


All of your posts leads to the conclusion that your intelligence is hard to find. You research someone else his believes on the web and then you make it your own.

moron!
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posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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I'm done with you.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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I tend to think that matter is what happens when there is a vortex that spirals down into another dimension, and there are so many vortexes close to each other that they get all jammed up against each other to the point where there's no relative movement. Too many holes to fall down into.

Yeah, it's nuts.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Blue Shift
I tend to think that matter is what happens when there is a vortex that spirals down into another dimension, and there are so many vortexes close to each other that they get all jammed up against each other to the point where there's no relative movement. Too many holes to fall down into.

Yeah, it's nuts.


without movement there wouldn't be any matter.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Baron01

All of your posts leads to the conclusion that your intelligence is hard to find. You research someone else his believes on the web and then you make it your own.


Research done by scientists on the eyes of the butterfly is not "belief". So piss off, I'm not a moron. I am done talking to you about this subject.


Originally posted by Blue Shift
I tend to think that matter is what happens when there is a vortex that spirals down into another dimension, and there are so many vortexes close to each other that they get all jammed up against each other to the point where there's no relative movement. Too many holes to fall down into.

Yeah, it's nuts.


That's too creative for me. Usually things start of simple and than become complex. So I doubt there were vortexes and other dimensions and all of this, but it is a very interesting theory. Some say that all things have a duality of "vortex" and "matter" and that even the sun and earth have a vortex at its core. very interesting theory.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme

Originally posted by Baron01

All of your posts leads to the conclusion that your intelligence is hard to find. You research someone else his believes on the web and then you make it your own.


Research done by scientists on the eyes of the butterfly is not "belief". So piss off, I'm not a moron. I am done talking to you about this subject.



It becomes very clear that you shouldn't be left alone with sharp objects and children. It also must be very easy to manipulate you.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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i studied chitlins on youtube.
so basically, matter is like pig intestines.
the further you take it, the closer you are to being an arse.
brass is bronze and is basically infinite density.
iron is strong yet carbon planet IS diamond planet.
iron is stronger than brass, having infinite density properties. Carbon is diamond.
Diamond matter is real.
only carbon.
just like carbonated water becomes soda with flavor, a carbon planet can become a matter of preference with the right wives.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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You almighty being you that I must bow down to. Prove to me in a VERY VERY VERY detailed analysis that butterflies don't see more colors than humans. I myself am fully colorblind see only black and white. So what your saying is I would be a complete idiot to say that other people do see color? Or am I just inferior to what you call your sorry ignorant life. This thread is about energy not about butterfly vision which is a fact. So please give me an explanation that butterflies less colors.
Im sure im not going to be the only one to laugh at the sorry thing you call answers.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by KennyDurazo

i studied chitlins on youtube.
so basically, matter is like pig intestines.
the further you take it, the closer you are to being an arse.
brass is bronze and is basically infinite density.
iron is strong yet carbon planet IS diamond planet.
iron is stronger than brass, having infinite density properties. Carbon is diamond.
Diamond matter is real.
only carbon.
just like carbonated water becomes soda with flavor, a carbon planet can become a matter of preference with the right wives.


I'm not sure I follow you so can you clarify this post?

Also, I am very interested in carbon/diamond/Planet as of recent as well.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Look up white dwarfs. They have large amounts of carbon that have been condensed into supposed diamond. The stars are planet sizes in nature thus a diamond planet.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by SonoraUndergroundLabs
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You almighty being you that I must bow down to. Prove to me in a VERY VERY VERY detailed analysis that butterflies don't see more colors than humans. I myself am fully colorblind see only black and white. So what your saying is I would be a complete idiot to say that other people do see color? Or am I just inferior to what you call your sorry ignorant life. This thread is about energy not about butterfly vision which is a fact. So please give me an explanation that butterflies less colors.
Im sure im not going to be the only one to laugh at the sorry thing you call answers.


Because we can communicate with eachother we can tell which and how many colors we see. Now, how do you communicate with a butterfly and ask which and how many colors it sees? It's very obvious we humans cannot know what the butterfly sees. We can assume a butterfly sees more colors than us humans, but assuming is no proof.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Its actually very simple. You just have to know how the eye works. I guess you skipped school when you learned about it.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Don't bother offering a scientific, objective definition, because there isn't one. That's why I put this in the philosophy forum. Which is pretty astonishing when you think about it. We know of 100+ combinations of protons, neutrons, and electrons, we learned that matter is a form of energy, we even defined energy as the ability to do work, but even as we figured out that the spacetime speed limit is 300,000 km/s, we failed to define what matter and energy actually IS.

So what IS it?

That which occupies space and has mass? ... ... okaaay... but what IS it?

Condensed energy? What does that even mean? Condensed 'ability to do work'. That still doesn't describe what it IS.

Physical substance. What IS it? No one knows for sure. I have an idea though. But I'd rather hear yours right now.
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WTF?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Man, I knew this thread would come in handy.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Don't bother offering a scientific, objective definition, because there isn't one. That's why I put this in the philosophy forum. Which is pretty astonishing when you think about it. We know of 100+ combinations of protons, neutrons, and electrons, we learned that matter is a form of energy, we even defined energy as the ability to do work, but even as we figured out that the spacetime speed limit is 300,000 km/s, we failed to define what matter and energy actually IS.

So what IS it?

That which occupies space and has mass? ... ... okaaay... but what IS it?

Condensed energy? What does that even mean? Condensed 'ability to do work'. That still doesn't describe what it IS.

Physical substance. What IS it? No one knows for sure. I have an idea though. But I'd rather hear yours right now.
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I know i know! It's a fairytale.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 10:49 PM
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Peter Russell's Primacy of Consciousness Conference
Discussing the conundrum of consciousness itself to science and how it challenges our current paradigm of understanding and offers a new and deeper understanding towards ourselves, the cosmos as a whole, and beyond




posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 11:27 PM
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It's theduality of ILLUSION,from your subjective awareness separating from your objective awareness.



posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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There are three kinds of matter:

#1 Matter

#2 Anti-Matter

#3 Doesn't Matter

Therefore, any objections to this post will be answered thus: Doesn't matter.
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posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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M = E/Csquared




posted on Mar, 28 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by smithjustinb

Originally posted by Baron01
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We percieve matter as solid because this way we can note the difference between objects and the space between objects. While matter/energy consists of tiny building blocks, everything is made of empty space.



This is very true. Even the building blocks are made up of smaller building blocks which are also made up of over 99% empty space. Even the macrocosm is 99% empty space. Your own relative size determines what is mostly empty space and what is not, but truthfully, everything is mostly empty space and the particles themselves against the back drop of that can barely be said to even exist at all. Yet we don't observe space, we observe the objects in space which we then use as references to define space. We observe objects because our conscious awareness is focused into a certain size so that things smaller appear as mostly form and things larger appear as mostly empty.

This is why I believe that particles don't really exist except as consciousness in which case they are only imagined.


You hit the nail right on the head Smithjustinb. Doesn't it sound holographic?

Personally I think matter is illusory being projected to our consciousness by a more powerful consciousness, possibly a "parent" consciousness. I think consciousness existed before "matter" and "matter" is what is used as a tool to confine consciousness to a simpler environment for learning purposes. For example you are confined to a classroom for preparation before you are unleashed to the wide world.

We are consciousness matter is an illusion.

-Alien





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