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Originally posted by fakedirt
reply to post by scotsdavy1
firstly they will need to get over the threshold. that's your shout. if in the slightest possibility you allow them in and they find the dish connected to the decoder and tv ready for viewing then i assume they will take action. if you stress that you view only recorded content then apart from arguing the toss with you i assume the burden of proof lies with them. if the burden lies with you, you will have to show that all content watched was after initial broadcast of content. their argument may entail that you accessed the broadcasted index/menu to decide what programmes to record thus accessing real-time broadcast material. i know it may sound daft but in a court of law the plaintiff (tv licensing authority) will have all the tricks available at their disposal whereas you being the defendant will have to show beyond reasonable doubt that you only accessed 'post' broadcasted material.
my stepson was wrongly informed that he required a licence to watch dvd's and access the internet. he has no aerial connected and cannot watch 'as broadcast' material. next years license pot will be one less as he now knows better!
regards fakedirt
their argument may entail that you accessed the broadcasted index/menu to decide what programmes to record thus accessing real-time broadcast material.
Originally posted by fakedirt
reply to post by scotsdavy1
firstly they will need to get over the threshold. that's your shout. if in the slightest possibility you allow them in and they find the dish connected to the decoder and tv ready for viewing then i assume they will take action.
if you stress that you view only recorded content then apart from arguing the toss with you i assume the burden of proof lies with them. if the burden lies with you, you will have to show that all content watched was after initial broadcast of content. their argument may entail that you accessed the broadcasted index/menu to decide what programmes to record thus accessing real-time broadcast material.
i know it may sound daft but in a court of law the plaintiff (tv licensing authority) will have all the tricks available at their disposal whereas you being the defendant will have to show beyond reasonable doubt that you only accessed 'post' broadcasted material.
Originally posted by fakedirt
reply to post by scotsdavy1
imo cancelling the dd will raise a flag at the central scrutiny commitat lol! let me know if they come a knocking.
best wishes f.
Originally posted by threewisemonkeys
Originally posted by fakedirt
reply to post by scotsdavy1
firstly they will need to get over the threshold. that's your shout. if in the slightest possibility you allow them in and they find the dish connected to the decoder and tv ready for viewing then i assume they will take action.
Rule Number 1. Under no circumstances should you allow ANYONE to enter your property. You are under no obligation to do so. Unless a baliff presents you with a signed (by a magistrate) x96 form, and it MUST be signed, no force can be used to gain entry. Tell them politely to f*off and close the door.
if you stress that you view only recorded content then apart from arguing the toss with you i assume the burden of proof lies with them. if the burden lies with you, you will have to show that all content watched was after initial broadcast of content. their argument may entail that you accessed the broadcasted index/menu to decide what programmes to record thus accessing real-time broadcast material.
Rule Number 2. Under no circumstances open your mouth. You are under no obligation to do so. The burden of proof is on them, end of. Note though, a licence IS required for the recording of live broadcasts, not to watch them (recorded). If you admit to recording a live broadcast to watch later, you have just inadvertently given them an admission of guilt and that is all they need.
i know it may sound daft but in a court of law the plaintiff (tv licensing authority) will have all the tricks available at their disposal whereas you being the defendant will have to show beyond reasonable doubt that you only accessed 'post' broadcasted material.
Capita, the private firm which holds the contract to enforce the TV Tax, will use any and all means to catch you out, including making crap up. One need only rememner 1 thing. Their proof almost always consists of photographic or video evidence of some using a television. There are no detector vans, and if there is, they have never been used as evidence in any case of TV Tax evasion, ever. This is why Rules 1 and 2 are of utmost importance.
Keep your door closed and your mouth shut and video everything. If someone knocks on your door and your not sure who it is, answer with a camera. If its one of their salesmen up to no good they wont like their unlawful antics being plastered all over youtube and they will simply walk away in a huff.
Another thing you can do, is remove their implied right of access to your property. You can do this in writing or verbaly over the phone. However you must use that exact wording. If a Capita employee steps foot on your property once this right has been removed, they will be guilty of criminal trespass. TV Licencing must confirm to you, in writing, that they have acknowledged the removal of their right of access, but they may stall. If so get on the phone to them and complain.
Winding them up has become a bit of a pastime for folk here, and to be honest it's a lot of fun.
edit on 3-3-2013 by threewisemonkeys because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by pikestaff
The thing is with the British TV licence is that you can watch 4 channels that do not have damn adverts, or listen to radio stations that do not have adverts, they have to be paid for somehow, all those soccer fans who can watch a whole game without adverts, what a joy!!!! (or any other sport) perhaps that £150.00 (?) is worth it, than paying for a separate sport channel? I dont watch any sport myself, I'm into other types of programs.