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Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by TKDRL
And that again reinforces my belief that what we truly need are anti-trust laws enforced, to prevent these huge mega-corporations from existing and to encourage competition, and less regulation otherwise to allow small businesses to start up and keep competition, innovation, and improvement alive and well.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by mossme89
Sooo if you're rich.. we take your money and give it to poor people because well .. they have no money.
So me, being in the middle, I'm far, far, far from rich but I'm not "poor" either. Why should I continue to work? Why shouldn't I just chill on my couch playing my xbox smoking pot all day? I mean, I'd get paid either way? Work and have people take my money.. or play xbox and get money with no work?
I see no incentive to work. Certainly no incentive to make a business, create products, innovate.... people will just profit from my work while I make the same as them? F that.. I'll sit on my couch.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by mossme89
Citizens of America are NOT EMPLOYEES of the GOVERNMENT. Those idiots work for us….we don’t work for them! We decide what THEY make and not the other way around.
A very wise man once said:
Though the people support the government; the government should not support the people. - Grover Cleveland
edit on 16-3-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wolf321
Originally posted by Leftist
Only because they have a lack of other viable choices. Yes, on paper they can "sit and starve." But real life doesn't work that way.
It is the same "freedom" as the "freedom" of the slave consents to slavery "freely" by his work. After all, he could always choose freely to be lashed and whipped instead, right?
Once again, getting beaten is not freedom. If you try to reference something again, please keep it in the realm of actual freedom.
An individual can choose not to work for a given wage. That is freedom. If everyone agrees that the job should be paid more, it remains unfilled until the position raises the offer to the point that someone agrees. A business needs its employees just as much as an employee needs a job.
One aspect of the problem of no jobs in the US, isn't actually the lack of jobs. It's the lack of any number of a certain type of jobs. If you have a college degree and lost your job in the collapse, do you go on unemployment while you look for a similar job or do you take anything that is available? Most people expect to wait for something they are either trained in or that is closer to what they made before. They aren't willing to readjust their life to a new lower rate or to do a job they either weren't trained in or they think they are overqualified for. The only reason employers have resisted hiring 'over-qualified' people in the past is because of attitude and a lack of humility. he current environment has humbled many and many employers would hirer someone with maturity and skill for the same wage as someone without.
Originally posted by Wolf321
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
Yet everyone keeps reelecting the same people or same flavor of people.
editby]edit on 16-3-2012 by Wolf321 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by mossme89
Create a maximum wage. Make it 15 times the salary of the lowest paid worker. I know some people say to make it 100x, but that's $15,000 compared to $1,500,000. Nobody needs that amount of money, especially when others are suffering.
I have a question? What in the hell gives you or anybody else the right to decide what an individual American should or should not earn?
Wealth redistribution is unconstitutional.
The utopian schemes of leveling [wealth redistribution] and a community of goods, are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown. These ideas are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional. - Samuel Adams
edit on 16-3-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Alxandro
.. and here is a video of Bert and Ernie that demonstrates the lunacy of left wing ideology at it's very core.
Forcing someone to share is the same as stealing and at some point those who have can no longer be robbed.
What happens next?
Those who "have not" will start turning on each other, especially on the "once have nots" that invested wisely after the first plunder.
Bottom line, you need the one percent, you want the one percent otherwise it's trickle up poverty for all - (if I may steal a Michael Savagism )
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by mossme89
Sooo if you're rich.. we take your money and give it to poor people because well .. they have no money.
So me, being in the middle, I'm far, far, far from rich but I'm not "poor" either. Why should I continue to work? Why shouldn't I just chill on my couch playing my xbox smoking pot all day? I mean, I'd get paid either way? Work and have people take my money.. or play xbox and get money with no work?
I see no incentive to work. Certainly no incentive to make a business, create products, innovate.... people will just profit from my work while I make the same as them? F that.. I'll sit on my couch.