posted on Mar, 15 2012 @ 07:06 PM
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by KevinBally
Your reply is well said and thought out. I am not ignoring it.
But I generally find that people try to turn feminism into a bad word and use it as a weapon.
If you can't explain exactly how ultra feminism is a problem and why,then it is not the problem. If you can't define it, then you can't use it as
an excuse.
I do agree that both genders have roles that need to be appreciated and celebrated. But they are not.
Are boys being socially castrated? No, As women are not even equal yet in this society.
Much less a third world country.
Yet any strides that women try to take, or anything they get credit for, is now immediately shut down under the poor excuse that "feminism" is
ruining everything.
To say that people are only unsuccessful because they haven't tried hard enough is a tactic used by privelaged, whtie guys who have not been
marginalized themselves, so they feel no one is.
Well I'm not a traditional white guy lol. But I mentioned that many people are in such horrible conditions that escaping those conditions are near
impossible. Look, explaining ultra feminism and how it is employed in our society would require far too much of my time and effort. However, there
is no doubt that our culture via Hollywood, TV, etc. has created this environment of a war between the sexes, and has attempted to make men more
worthless. When a diaper commercial is made and targets fathers who don't want to change their baby's diaper for several days in a row if their
wife is a way on business; that's ultra feminism and that ad was likely made by a woman. Believe it or not, women are pretty equal in the
marketing/advertising/Hollywood sphere which plays a huge role in influencing our culture. When men are convinced that wearing skinny jeans and not
having a piece on hair on their body is cool, well that goes against what straight men have been like for thousands of years. When a female can hit a
man all she likes, "That bastard probably deserved it." If the man simply holds the woman's arms back from striking him, "It's domestic
violence/abuse against women." Women are more liberated and educated then ever, and the children that are coming up in this country are more
retarded, lazier, and less family oriented than ever (this is partially because many father's no longer responsible either.) The bottom line is
this; the people in the cultural, economic, political elite want to create division in order to conquer. So they do so by creating Black vs. White,
male vs. female, Christian vs. Muslim, gay vs. straight, etc. It's a tactic that has been used throughout history. And if you can't see how the
ultra feminist mentality that is permeating society is negatively effecting men directly, women indirectly, and the future generations profoundly;
then we'll just have to agree to disagree. Obviously, I'm a man so I'm somewhat biased in this argument and I'm guessing your a woman so you're
somewhat biased. However, I also think you're wrong about women not being equal in the U.S. You have, as the author pointed out, more females
graduating from college and in many masters program than men. You have more male nurses and more female doctors than ever before. You have more male
secretaries and more female directors/managers then ever before. I agree with the author that the wrong doing against women historically will take
some time yet to disappear. Segregation came to an end in the 60s, but it took 40 years to produce a Black President. There is still racism and
division in society today. It will take time for their to be a substantial number of female CEOS in the Fortune 500 for example. However, there are
so many startups and small business run by women today (many would have thought it impossible 30 years ago). I agree with the author that women's
major fight for equality should now be focused in the third world, not here in the U.S. where it's beginning to go too far into female superiority
rather than equality. Furthermore, look at our school systems. You still have many more female teachers who are likely to promote many ideas that go
along with the ultra feminism the author describes. Therefore, it is more likely that both young girls and boys grow up believing it to be true. I
live in Washington DC, and I can tell you that the number of professional female workers here that believe in this idea of ultrafeminism is
staggering. No man, even one on their level and making a similar salary is good enough. Soon enough they hit age 30, 35, 40 and are not married and
have no kids and start to realize they want them. I'm not going to continue this argument because I'll keep going on tangents. You believe what
you want, but men know what they feel, and many women including one who posted on this thread also realize this reality.