Impending doomsday officially cancelled!! (probably)

Fun and interesting post, I'm still gonna get drunk off my rear end on December 21, 2012 and watch some end of he world themed movies

"Live each day as if it were your last", forget the " sooner or later, you'll be right" part and you will have lived a life with no regrets!

That doesn't mean don't be smart about your decisions each day, which includes preperation for worse case scenarios.

Expect the best and prepare for the worst and you'll never be disappointed!

You guys that actually buy into these claims are just COMPLETELY SILLY

I will only celebrate on 1 January of 2013, there have been a lot of predictions related to 21 December 2012, there is no time in history that too many people say that something will happen in 2012.

I hope that nothing happens in this year but who knows, the world right now has some big issues to consider like:

World War 3 ( israel, iran, usa, china, russia )

Solar Flares that could burn thousands of electronic machines. ( NASA has confirmed than in 2012/2013) we will have the worst solar storms in more than a hundred years.

Aliens invading earth. Sooner or later they will arrive and when that happens they will be in charge of the world, there will be no one in earth more powerful.

One thing we can all agree on is that change is inevitable. Global change included. I truly believe the people of this earth are waking up to the truth that the masses have been manipulated into keeping our heads buried in the sand. Manipulated by a greedy, heartless few that snowballed into many. We've been kept from realizing a greater truth of the way things can be. A world without pain and sorrow, equality for all and so many wonderful things that I can't even conceive. This world that is currently ruled by fear will change as the masses awake and take back our sovereignty and this will change the world as we know it. A doomsday? For some for sure. When? I don't know, but it's closer every day.

Great thread. S&F.

I see the usual doom peddlers haven't dared fart into this thread yet. I could start naming names to summon them like the Kraken or Ralph Fiennes in Harry Potter, but I'm sure it'd be some sort of T&C violation to single out the poor saps.

Nevertheless, since they're bound to read this anyways, we ridicule because you deserve it.

Everything on Earth has a beginning and also has an end. We born and we die. It makes sense to believe one day our civilization will cease to exist and will be eventually forgotten, regardless how this can happen.

Besides the human race, that happned to the dinosaurs as we perfectly know. So it's irrational to believe we are going to be here forvever, in the current form of life. That would be denying evolution.

We don't know the future right?

Originally posted by ColAngus
Great thread. S&F.

I see the usual doom peddlers haven't dared fart into this thread yet. I could start naming names to summon them like the Kraken or Ralph Fiennes in Harry Potter, but I'm sure it'd be some sort of T&C violation to single out the poor saps.

I've never peddled doom, but I believe doom could be on it's way. Not so hard to imagine, since in the past civilizations have come and go. This thread seems like damage control for the killshot thread which hit the top yesterday, or it's a coincidence.. They don't call ed dames, Maj Doom for no reason.

Nice thread. Unfortunately it won't make a difference. The belief in doomsday/ascension is a religion unto itself at this point. So no amount of logic is going to cause these followers to abandon their god. Just look at how many people in this thread are making claims regarding the Mayan calendar that I and others have debunked in almost every thread on the topic. I even have a thread devoted entirely to how the Mayan calendar system works and still you have people claiming that the "Mayan calendar" (they can't even seem to learn that the Maya had multiple calendars) was more accurate than the Gregorian calendar. That's pretty hard to believe considering the haab was an exact 365 days.

Ok, I'm rambling and venting now. Once again great thread. Just don't expect it to change too many people's minds.

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We -- the species -- focus on the apocalypse because we feel *powerless*. That's it in a nutshell; apocalypse theory is viagra for the atrophied spirit.

The only reason it hasn't been doomsday, is because people imagine doomsday scenarios and prepare for them. Great depression do happen. World Wars do happen. Civilizations do fall. Cities do end up under water. Climates do change. Solar Flares can knock out the power.

The chances of something on that scale happening tomorrow are just as good as it never happening again.

Fortunately; dreamers come up with these situations and that helps us prepare ahead of time. It is reflective of the times. We created nuclear weapons, and it's best we create a way to survive their use.

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All judgement days are personal days. I hope you get what you were after.

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No,actually the Mayan calendar is way more accurate than the Gregorian calendar.
So that will be a fail for whoever trying to take the fun out of ATS.
So let me make it clear:you know,after reading some of the real news,the real horrible stuff happening everyday to people around the world,after seeing the wickedness of mankind,you want it to end already.That's when you go to the "NEW TOPICS" and look for the closest doomsday thread,have a good laugh and go on with your life because most of the time there is little you can do about the suffering of certain and the stupidity of others.

You want to hear a good doomsday warning? Read Revelation 12 about the woman being clothed with the sun, and then take a look at what happened to the constellation Virgo when Comet Elenin passed through it and 6 more constellations in the hebrew mazzaroth for a total of that magic number 7. The prophecy in Revelation 12 was fulfilled.

Makes you want to know how a prophet who lived 2500 years ago who didn't know math, could know that this event was going to happen in broad daylight when no one could see it because of blue sky, yet still happened eh? Last time this even happened was Christ's first coming. It happened again 2000 years later, maybe a prediction of his second coming? Gotta wonder, how someone that lived 2000+ years ago knew this was going to happen and in daylight no less when the stars are not visible.

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Do people not realize that the Maya had multiple calendars? I guess that's what's to be expected when most people get their information on the subject from New Age authors. The calendar that most corresponds to the Gregorian calendar is the haab. This is the Mayan solar calendar and like the Gregorian calendar it measures the Earth's orbit around the Sun. Unlike the Gregorian calendar though it is only 365 days long. It has no internal mechanism built in to account for that extra .25 days. The haab is also the calendar that provides the basis for the Long Count. However, it doesn't really affect the accuracy of the Long Count in any way as the Long Count is only a count of days.

Originally posted by NISMOALTI
just a little something to ad the the op.

i really dont feel like doing the math but it does make sense. just something to think about.

Not to ignore the excellent message from the OP, but I have to respond to your reply by saying that Mayan calendar is not based on dates and does not care about leap years. The Mayan calendar is based on Astronomy. The calendar records the transition of (1) half orbit of our galaxy. Since we calculate the end date to be astronomically correct, that puts us (using our current calendar) at Dec 21.
The real mystery occurred much later in modern times when Astronomers confirmed that this procession runs by their timeline that was devised thousands of years ago. This just so happens to correspond to the "current event" of the massive solar energy storm that will reach our sun by the end of December of this year. LINK

I do agree with the OP that we should quit living to to look forward to total destruction and we should start living to escape and live forever.

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how about you give me some good authors names,some books to have.It never hurt to ask......

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There's just so much wrong with this post I don't know where to begin. First, the Long Count didn't measure anything. It was merely a way to keep track of days that allowed the Maya to refer to dates outside of the 52 year Calendar Round. Second, it definitely doesn't measure how long it takes to make a half orbit of the galaxy. The circumference of the solar system is about 300,000 LY. The solar system is in one of the arms meaning that the distance it must travel for one orbit is close to this 300,000 LY. If we go with the popular claim that the Long Count repeats after every 13 baktun we are left with a cycle of about 5,000 years. For the solar system to make a half-orbit of the galaxy in 5,000 years it would have to be traveling at 30 times the speed of light. In other words absolutely impossible. As for Andov's claims it doesn't even seem like he knows what causes a star to become a red giant.

That was a breath of fresh air! I feel the same way OP! People worry to much about the future and perceived pitfalls like doomsday scenarios. While stocking up on canned goods and firearms they neglect the present. There is plenty to celebrate and be grateful for right now. Birth of a child, a beautiful sunny day, gazing up at the stars, watching a magnificent sunset, reading a good book, and countless other positive endeavors we can enjoy while times are good on this magnificent rock we call earth. At the same time we have all the wet blankets pummeling us left and right with doom and gloom? What is up with that? I like to say, be careful what you wish for because it just might happen.

I am not denying that one day humanity will get its' pink slip like the dinosaurs and other species that walked or crawled on this Earth. Why worry about doom and gloom? There is nothing any of us can do about it. When it is our time it is our time. Sometimes I think these new age mystics, and modern day oracles get their jollies off of making everyone around them miserable and paranoid? They need to stop smelling the volcanic vapors and conning everyone.

Delphic Oracle's Lips May Have Been Loosened by Gas Vapors

Now, a four-year study of the area in the vicinity of the shrine is causing archaeologists and other authorities to revisit the notion that intoxicating fumes loosened the lips of the Pythia.

The study, reported in the August issue of Geology, reveals that two faults intersect directly below the Delphic temple. The study also found evidence of hallucinogenic gases rising from a nearby spring and preserved within the temple rock.

All of their projections have been flat out wrong. Now don't get me wrong, because I do find some of the scenarios entertaining in the realm of science fiction. However, in the realm of reality, I find them to be akin to acts at some carnival side show. They would be on display with the bearded lady and the Siamese twins. There is nothing mankind can do when their days are numbered, and so why worry about it? I know I won't! I am not going to give those snake oil salesmen my money or my time, because they are nothing more than con men and women.

As for the remote viewers and their "Killshot sequence?" I only mention them because of a recent ATS thread and they were briefly mentioned in the OP.

Former DIA Officer reveal and confirm the worst NASA's Nightmare

I am supposed to stop what I am doing because these clowns had some revelation and doodled it down on a scrap of paper? My three-year-old nephew doodles the same things, and just maybe if I look a little closer at his doodles it will show the downfall of humanity? I don't care if they were sanctioned and funded by the government. It is not going make me believe their bunk anymore than the next guy wearing the wooden placards with "The End is Nigh," on them rigging a bell on the street. We have learned in the past that our government has spent thousands of dollars on hammers. Look it up if you don't believe it. Just my two cents on the doom and gloom crowd. Live for today, and if tomorrow comes enjoy it!

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David Stuart is always a great place to start. He is widely regarded as the foremost expert on the Maya and he's quite easy to read. In fact he just put out a book last year titled The Order of Days: The Maya World and the Truth About 2012 that talks about the claims regarding 2012 from an actual Mayanists perspective. He also maintains a blog that can be found here which is very interesting. Michael Coe is also worth reading. While I find some of his opinions to be outdated he has written or edited a number of seminal books and articles on the Maya.