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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by edmc^2
You're making statements you don't back up with objective evidence and facts...you are essentially preaching. So you can't really complain about people not taking your posts seriously
Originally posted by HappyBunny
Originally posted by Jameela
Theory is not fact
Gravity is a theory. Do you doubt that it exists?
Can you please tell me if Job 26:7 which states poetically that the "earth...is hanging upon nothing" contradicts our scientific knowledge? That is, that the earth is being held in place in outer space by an invisible force - we now know as gravity?
Can you please tell me if there's ANY VISIBLE means to support the earth in outer space as it orbits the sun in the solar system?
If none, will it be correct then for a layperson to say that the "earth...is hanging upon nothing"?
Please let me know if my question needs further clarification or explanation and I will attempt to explain it again.
if "held", "hold" or "holding in place" is not the correct words, then I will use "keeping in place".
If these words are not clear enough to describe the earth in outer space, then sorry to say this, but it shows total ignorance on the person reading a very simple question. And I can't do nothing about it.
Originally posted by edmc^2
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by edmc^2
You're making statements you don't back up with objective evidence and facts...you are essentially preaching. So you can't really complain about people not taking your posts seriously
Of course there's objective evidence. Problem is people try to ignore the truth and can't give a straight answer.
Here let me ask you the question that I posited to someone here.
Can you please tell me if Job 26:7 which states poetically that the "earth...is hanging upon nothing" contradicts our scientific knowledge? That is, that the earth is being held in place in outer space by an invisible force - we now know as gravity?
So as not to make things too difficult to understand and be accused of changing the topic - let me rephrase my q:
Can you please tell me if there's ANY VISIBLE means to support the earth in outer space as it orbits the sun in the solar system?
If this it no yet clear, let me rephrase again:
Can any of the brightest scientists in the world show us that the earth has a visible means of support while it orbits the sun in outer space?
If none, will it be correct then for a layperson to say that the "earth...is hanging upon nothing"?
Please let me know if my question needs further clarification or explanation and I will attempt to explain it again.
tc.
ps.
if "held", "hold" or "holding in place" is not the correct words, then I will use "keeping in place".
If these words are not clear enough to describe the earth in outer space, then sorry to say this, but it shows total ignorance on the person reading a very simple question. And I can't do nothing about it.
Originally posted by Tripple_Helix
reply to post by edmc^2
I'm sorry.
That reply to your thread was just mean and uncalled for.
I'm just so sick of the 'battle' attitude when it comes to Creationism vs Darwinism when both are correct in their own ways. I suppose it comes down to perspective, how one views 'God & Evolution'.
That's why I try and stay out of this subject now, more that ever. It just seems it's the same argument over and over.
Anyway. I'm sorry for jumping down your throat uncalled for.
Please accept my apology..
Sorry, I had to edit my post...after reading your reply again... My point is that you brought up the "God Created..." subject. And now the thread is revolving around that subject. Not space, time etc.. The thread is derailed away form the intent that the OP had... Don't worry, if it wasn't you, it would have been someone else.. I'm surprised RevelationGeneration hasn't stopped by yet.edit on 19-3-2012 by Tripple_Helix because: To add and correct.
When you look at most things around us they have been created by someone or something. Why not us. When you look to biology it's so complicated it seems there had to be someone intelligent behind it.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster does exist I've seen it myself.
Do you believe in love? As an intense feeling of deep affection? Or just hormones and chemicals?
I just don't understand how belief in God has to be so at odds with science to so many people. It wasn't for Newton or Einstein.
they provided their own warped science to show no big bang.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by lucidclouds
When you look at most things around us they have been created by someone or something. Why not us. When you look to biology it's so complicated it seems there had to be someone intelligent behind it.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster does exist I've seen it myself.
Do you believe in love? As an intense feeling of deep affection? Or just hormones and chemicals?
I just don't understand how belief in God has to be so at odds with science to so many people. It wasn't for Newton or Einstein.
The reason it is believed that humans were not created is that it is possible to find a trail of evidence that suggests that humans evolved just as other life forms have evolved.
The love question is certainly interesting. Even if love is due to chemical interactions it still is love. It is the observable consequence of these chemicals. The complexity of the result is due to underlying complexity of the situation which may be just chemical in nature. Just like a movie exists independent of the device on which we view it, love can exist independent of the chemistry on which it depends.
I see the problem with religion and science as religion dogmatically forcing a solution onto science. Religion states that the answer must be a certain result because some religious text says that is so. To use a situation outside of the creationist discussion let me relate a situation I bumped into.
This group that believes in reincarnation had a booth at a festival that made it very clear that the big bang was wrong. Their dogma was that souls are never created or destroyed. They have been here in this universe for all time and the universe was here for all time. The big bang would require the creation of souls. Therefore the big bang was wrong and they provided their own warped science to show no big bang.
I understand what you are saying about religion, religion has done all sorts of evil things in the name of God and most push their beliefs over science. But, religion is not the same as believing that there is a creator.
Does the amount of chemicals equal the amount someone loves another person?
What did this warped science entail? Im curious...