Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by edmc^2
Let's start with the real failures of the bible. Lots of myths have a beginning. Myths from around the world talk about a beginning for the world and the universe. It would seem that in this respect the bible is not special with that claim.
Genesis has 2 creation myths that are not the same. The bible cannot even agree with itself. In one man and woman are created at the same time. In the other man and woman are created at different times. In one great whales are created before cattle and beasts. The fossil record shows that to be wrong. The stories have the order wrong for the creation of the solar system.
It's a mess.
It also claims humans just popped up on earth in their current form, and the entire human race comes from 2 fully formed homo sapiens (Adam & Eve)...which we know for a FACT isn't true. It also claims the earth was created before the sun, which is also wrong.
In other words Genesis 1:1 is correct when it says that the universe and the earth had a beginning.
I take that as a yes. Thank you.
SO the issue with the Bible to you is that you view it as a myth and contradictory. That's understandable especially to someone who doesn't know its contents and the sequence of events.
We just recently learned in the modern century that the earth is being held by an unseen force - we call this invisible force as gravity.
The Bible says that the "earth is hanging upon nothing" -Job 26:7.
Did the Bible writer got it right or not?
Furthermore, where did the Bible writer get this space age information if it was written more than 2500 years ago? Way before the advent of space travel.
Wow. One thing right and a trivial issue at that since most cultures describe a beginning.
So please defend the 2 contradictory creation myths in genesis.
It's laughable that you think this suggests gravity. The Earth is not hanging.
None of that is space age. Gravity is a well known force. It has been known about as long as people have existed.
The Job verse suggests makes the claim that God supports the Earth rather than the Earth sitting on something such as the back of a turtle or Atlas. Regardless of this verse, Genesis is wrong.
In other words the Bible got it right. Thank you.
Since the statement made in Genesis 1:1 was written more than 3000 years ago - way before we formulated the Big Bang Theory and the Singularity Theory - question is:
Where did the Bible writer got the information from?
What "2 contradictory creation myths" are you talking about? Please elaborate.
OK - before the word "gravity" was coined - what was the definition of the force that was holding the earth in space?
If you really know what you're talking about - who coined the word GRAVITY? When was it discovered?
So are you saying that the "the Earth sitting on something such as the back of a turtle or Atlas."? Or are you saying that the Bible is stating that?
Wow. Great video reminds me of what a great Creator I have. It amazes me that people think this is random.
To the OP, what in science made you a Atheist? I never understand this. Agnostic I can see, but there is no evidence that there is no God. And you can say that there is no evidence that there is, so then we just don't know for sure.
Or was it nothing in science and just your belief system?
I'm not trying to pick a fight, just wondering.
The bible myth has nothing to do with the big bang. The writer borrowed this tale. The Hopi creation myth is not about the big bang. The Mayan creation myth is not about the big bang. None of the creation myths are about the big bang. Your claim is as absurd as any I have heard from a bible thumper.
I thought you had read the bible?
There is no force holding the Earth in space. Ancient people knew that a dropped rock falls to Earth. You apparently have no idea what idea discovered that is descried witht he apocryphal story of the falling apple.
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The term gravity is not important. That is an English word. The ancients knew about gravity.
It's interesting to note that the Bible actually agrees with the Big Bang Theory - a beginning - and yet you call it a myth. Can't handle the truth?
Yes I did, cover to cover twice already and going on my third and the myth that you've mentioned is not just there. So I asked you, what "2 contradictory creation myths" are you talking about? Please elaborate.
SO what's your definition of the invisible force that is - to very technical - keeping the earth in its place in space at its axis as it orbits around the sun in the solar system in the Milky way galaxy?
Are you saying that the bible claims that "God supports the Earth rather than the Earth sitting on something such as the back of a turtle or Atlas."?
Technically or Scientifically speaking Barcs we call it GRAVITY.
Question to you is - where did the Bible writer get his information from more that 3000 years ago?
There is no force holding the Earth in space.
While textbooks upon textbooks and studies upon studies and many scientific minds say otherwise.
The Bible says that the "earth is hanging upon nothing" -Job 26:7.
OK - before the word "gravity" was coined - what was the definition of the force that was holding the earth in space?
SO what's your definition of the invisible force that is - to very technical - keeping the earth in its place in space at its axis as it orbits around the sun in the solar system in the Milky way galaxy?
Originally posted by Tripple_Helix
reply to post by edmc^2
Why do you guys always have to bring Religion into every topic concerning the universe or science. It is not your enemy, and neither are we.
You are trashing this thread. No one else wants to participate in it because we just don't feel like being jumped on by the religious group.
The original poster did not put any religious context in the OP as he clearly didn't want to be a part of a religious debate, so why even bring it up in the first place?
Originally posted by edmc^2
reply to post by MrXYZ
It all comes back to this - the MOST ASTOUNDING FACT!
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”—Gen. 1:1.
Can't get away from this fact.
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