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Originally posted by the4thhorseman
Originally posted by andersensrm
4. Taxes, Taxes, Taxes - We need to start taxing people who have more money than they can possibly imagine.
Income per year
$250,000 or less : 15 %
250,000 - 500,000 : 20 %
500,000 - 1,000,000 : 30%
1,000,000 - 10,000,000 : 40%
10,000,000 - 100,000,000 : 45%
100,000,000 - 1,000,000,000 : 50%
1,000,000,000 or more: 60%
Income needs to be counted by money you receive. That is, any money you receive, doesn't matter from where, is income. That should solve the revenue problem, although many people won't like it.
OK some good points there except this one. I know, I know the rich should pay more because they can afford it. I say why don't we all pay the same percentage regardless of our income. That way 51% percent of the country isn't fronting the bill for the other 49% not paying any income taxes. If we need a tax increase then tax us all..all 100% percent of us. That way the ones struggling that do have a hard time making it will have more resources at the finger tips because of the extra revenue generated by more people paying taxes.
Originally posted by openminded2011
Politicians who aid in outsourcing of jobs should lose voting privileges and not be able to ever run for a public office again. Bankers who commit fraud should lose voting privileges and spend the rest of their life in JAIL.
Originally posted by illuminatislave
The people that demand drug testing are morons....first of all, when florida did this it was a waste of money, second urine tests only catch weed smokers, users of others including liquor can pass those tests easier.
You just want to demonize the less fortunate. Demand drug testing for your congressmen who cause a ton of problems before you label everyone on p.a. an addict.
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yougetwhatyoudeserve
When the "people" make mistakes or commit fraud, it usually only affects a few people, when people in power do it, it can affect millions. See the present economy.
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yougetwhatyoudeserve
When the "people" make mistakes or commit fraud, it usually only affects a few people, when people in power do it, it can affect millions. See the present economy.
If "people" commit tax fraud or something like that, It can affect a lot of people, think about it what will happen if a lot of people commit a tax fraud?
I don't think that it is really fair to point your finger only to the people who are in a position of power, everybody does bad things so we all screwed this system up!
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Ok, so who is more responsible for damage to the economy, someone who steals a pack of cigarettes or someone who steals a billion dollars? I would say the latter. Who does more jail time? I would say the former. Something is wrong with that equation.
If You're On Food Stamps, You Should Lose Voting Privileges?
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Ok, so who is more responsible for damage to the economy, someone who steals a pack of cigarettes or someone who steals a billion dollars? I would say the latter. Who does more jail time? I would say the former. Something is wrong with that equation.
You can say whatever you want to say, but no one will listen to you haha, and with that in mind I hope you know your position in life.
Originally posted by illuminatislave
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yougetwhatyoudeserve
When the "people" make mistakes or commit fraud, it usually only affects a few people, when people in power do it, it can affect millions. See the present economy.
If "people" commit tax fraud or something like that, It can affect a lot of people, think about it what will happen if a lot of people commit a tax fraud?
I don't think that it is really fair to point your finger only to the people who are in a position of power, everybody does bad things so we all screwed this system up!
What a load of elitist, apologist garbage.
Licking boots and brown nosing won't get you anywhere in life...all that does is make your tongue dirty, and smears # across your nose. Pathetic.
Originally posted by illuminatislave
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Ok, so who is more responsible for damage to the economy, someone who steals a pack of cigarettes or someone who steals a billion dollars? I would say the latter. Who does more jail time? I would say the former. Something is wrong with that equation.
You can say whatever you want to say, but no one will listen to you haha, and with that in mind I hope you know your position in life.
What's your position? Licking boots til they're clean?
Originally posted by SmArTbEaTz
To say that you should lose your rights because you are on hard times is just disgusting...
Systems get abused all the time, just look at our financial market for example, but to lose your rights because some, not all, people abuse it is wrong. No one wants to be out of work. It's boring and welfare $ is not even enough to pay the bills. It's not like you can go on vacation to Disney, go on a shopping spree or buy a new car. No. Some of those people are selling their stamp money to pay the bills the checks don't cover. I would rather them do that then break into someone's house or rob a gas station.
Caffeine is a drug, Nicotine is a drug, Sugar is a drug, Alcohol is a drug, by definition... A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body, in particular.
Looks like we are all drug abusers...
I believe most drug abuse is done by over the counter drugs and prescribed meds anyways... Should we test for all those too? Should we make everyone take a breathalyzer test to pick up their checks as well?
About 6 months ago I remember reading about a gas station robbery where the owner was working and got held up by a single dad trying to feed his family. The man had apologized for what he was doing but said that he and his wife had lost their jobs and the state denied them benefits. He just wanted some money to make his house payment and some food to feed their kids. The gas station owner was so moved by this that he actually gave the man a some food, some cash, and a job...
Originally posted by yougetwhatyoudeserve
Originally posted by SmArTbEaTz
To say that you should lose your rights because you are on hard times is just disgusting...
Yes, but you dont know the whole story behind someone who is losing his rights.... You don't lose them if you "play the game along".
Um.... apparently for being on food stamps as the discussion says... duh
Systems get abused all the time, just look at our financial market for example, but to lose your rights because some, not all, people abuse it is wrong. No one wants to be out of work. It's boring and welfare $ is not even enough to pay the bills. It's not like you can go on vacation to Disney, go on a shopping spree or buy a new car. No. Some of those people are selling their stamp money to pay the bills the checks don't cover. I would rather them do that then break into someone's house or rob a gas station.
Going on a shopping spree or going to disney are not basic needs, besides wellfare is adjusted to basic needs and people who can't pay their basic bills anymore usually have a lot more stuff going on (loans, phonebills, internet, television). But you don't hear them telling you that or they lie about it so they don't get the blame.
What is your point? I said they DO NOT GO ON SHOPPING SPREES... and can't afford to... and I do hear them saying they can't pay their bills. I don't hear them saying I need to sell my stamps for drugs...
Caffeine is a drug, Nicotine is a drug, Sugar is a drug, Alcohol is a drug, by definition... A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body, in particular.
Looks like we are all drug abusers...
Yes
I believe most drug abuse is done by over the counter drugs and prescribed meds anyways... Should we test for all those too? Should we make everyone take a breathalyzer test to pick up their checks as well?
About 6 months ago I remember reading about a gas station robbery where the owner was working and got held up by a single dad trying to feed his family. The man had apologized for what he was doing but said that he and his wife had lost their jobs and the state denied them benefits. He just wanted some money to make his house payment and some food to feed their kids. The gas station owner was so moved by this that he actually gave the man a some food, some cash, and a job...
To be honest I don't believe a single word of this story, to me it is is just somekind of excuse or symphaty propaganda.
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Originally posted by SmArTbEaTz
You're still missing the point... and apparently did not understand a lick of what I posted...