The systematic exaggeration of the Iranian threat

reply to post by sonnny1


For world wide acceptance they need the US to say "you have our blessing."

Which will not happen - therby giving rise to the rumours of assination. Another plot me thinks.


And the rumors are from Farrakhan no less...Throwing the ball far this time.
Now it's up to us - to chase that ball. Setting the stage and a pretext....

Well it ain't hard to figure when you've seen the show before...

Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by sonnny1

 

For world wide acceptance they need the US to say "you have our blessing"

which will not happen - theyby giving rise to the rumours of assination. Another plot me thinks.

Hmmmmm.

That didn't stop Israel before though. Also,with recent rhetoric that Israel has provided,I dont think they will let the US know,if they decide to attack.

BTW,thanks for having a discussion with me on this,without lambasting me......

I do appreciate it.

What is with the American bashing. We all know they're special in the head, I imagine the US as Lenny from of mice and men. Big, but not all there.
Even tho lots of people hate on them call them names and imply they're stupid, they still seem to think they're some grand master global conspirators.

Nobody needs US approval for anything, hence why they are researching nuclear power anyway. I don't think China and Russia has had US approval for some time now. They can't even control their own people, did they have permission to occupy places, I doubt it. Thats why they're rushing a bill to stop it. (or supposidly stop it I haven't read the thread yet)


I want to raise issue with the topic title, how is threatening to wipe another nation off the map an exageration of the Iranian threat?

reply to post by Xertious


It would be dishonest to say any one side has no part in the blame. There is no higher ground or vindicated right when violence is the path taken.

The issue of Iran has been widely discussed and many are beginning to see the intentional media driven and State sponsored exaggeration of the threat that Iran supposedly represents to Israel and the world.

Such lies are what they are, but what is missing from all this concern is the fact that such exaggeration is needed to justify the future actions that will ensue.

While the world worries about an attack on Iran or Syria and or upon Israel itself, many feel it will serve as the trigger point that leads to a global thermonuclear world war.

While this premise is indeed a valid and real concern, I also feel it is a deception of sorts to keep Americans from realizing that it is the USA, Israel and the UK that are most subject to a nuclear first strike and not Iran.

It is China and Russia combined along with their lackey puppet states that poses the real danger to us all.

While China and Russia have openly and clearly stated they would not tolerate any action on Iran without consequences. As such, it is then logical to think that if China and Russia and others truly seek to prevent the Middle East from becoming the next war zone for control of resources, then it stands to reason that an attack on America, Israel and the UK would be needed to prevent such a scenario with Iran from ever happening.

To wait till a war breaks out is not how China and Russia are thinking and this is why the current media coverage of such a matter leaves out what the rest of the world already knows.

The Iranian threat is an exaggeration, but it is also used to divert attention from where the real threat exists, because if we truly understood just how much America is a target right now, then we would begin to see that the actions of our government and elected officials are not in the best interests of America and in that regard one must ask why then are our leaders moving us to global world war with such zeal and arrogance for what the nation and the world does not want any part of?

A government unanswerable to the people is a nation out of control and the rest of the world already knows that America is out of control and must be dealt with. It is that dealing with America that does not get any discussion and while I can understand why not, our failure to understand our current predicament will only add to the insult after any first strike on our nation.

Thanks for the thread. Just wish more discussion about America being in the nuclear cross hairs would become better understood, because if anyone thinks they will one day read or hear about Iran being attacked while they go on about their daily lives, is living in a real delusion that will be suddenly and abruptly ended by the sudden flash of nuclear bombs or if you are so unlucky as to survive the attack, the many Chinese and Russian invading forces.

This is what a Zionist attack on Iran can bring America if such war talk is not eliminated from our foreign policy regarding Iran, because to me, it only stands to reason that a first strike upon America and her allies is a necessity for the survival of the rest of the world.

Since other nations seek to survive and be in some position of advantage is what makes a nuclear first strike on America as very logical.

This strategic and military necessity to strike us first is what needs to be discussed in my opinion and not all the exaggerated worry about Iran being attacked first, for it is America, Israel and the UK that will be hit first in my opinion and that is what is kept from the American public to consider regarding Iran and any future global world war.

Thanks for the thread.

We are facing a threat so great not known or seen since Hitler.

Ahmadinajihadi is the Hitler of OUR time.
There is no downplaying this.
I would call wiping Israel off the map
and killing all Americans with a nuclear bomb
be a suit case nuke or a car nuke getting into
the US sent from Iran. Or them sending an operative
to unleash biological weapons/disease
Why keep going further down the rabbit
hole and letting more third world countries
have very dangerous weapons?

Right, so it was none of any ones business
when Hitler was killing millions
of people for no reason, and committing genocide?
WRONG
Sorry, America is not land of the free and home of the wussy..

That is why it is home of the brave, because we will
face danger and tyranny at any corner, and destroy
evil by any means necessary.
Get a grip, grow a pair, and brush up on history son.

reply to post by sonnny1

Heres a great reply from your "opinionated " source......

you did not claim it was comment, you claimed it as source

You failed to mention Iran’s refusal to allow independent inspectors. You failed to mention why a ‘peaceful’ nuclear program is being built 90 km underground.

you used that NONSENCE line to claim it invalidated the article in the op whi it isn't even part of

now you are saying

90 meters

you make the OPs point AGAIN
way to go

reply to post by popsmayhem


the new Hitler?????

have they gassesd any of the jews who live in IRAN now and who Israel couldn't even BRIBE to leave?

NO!!!!

way to make the OPs point for him

Hitler....!!!!!???? the BOGEY MAN!


wow! not to often you see a thread where the rebuttals go so far to verify the premice of the OP
there ought to be a reverse star or something for that

reply to post by BIHOTZ


Oh yeah its a tit-for-tat situation going on.
I personally think Iran is the more unstable and the entity that needs to be dealt with first. Whereas Iran has tried to make peace in the past and has even given over lands to try make peace work. Iran has come along and got itself involved in a situation that doesn't really effect them. Now they're egging on Lebanon to get involved too.

reply to post by Danbones


Everyone doing something bad is compared with Hitler, its the internet way. I wouldn't say he's as bad as Hitler...not yet at least. Hitler did invade several countries and exterminate a fair few jews, so at the moment he's winning.

Originally posted by Xertious
reply to post by Danbones

 

Everyone doing something bad is compared with Hitler, its the internet way. I wouldn't say he's as bad as Hitler...not yet at least. Hitler did invade several countries and exterminate a fair few jews, so at the moment he's winning.

Good point

Just for balance
sooo...

the Us has invaded many countries and is resposible for the deaths of at least these few Jews:

American Jews make up only a fraction of those casualties — by a reliable count, 37 men and women who lost their lives in combat. Experts say the number of Jews may be higher, as some soldiers don’t declare their religion, especially when serving in Muslim countries. Among the Jewish dead are the first female airman to die in Iraq and the only member of the U.S. Coast Guard killed in action since the Vietnam War.

www.haaretz.com...

While Iran isn't really killing any Jews and isn't invading any countries...

so would that put the US a little higher up the Hitler scale then Iran?
( Remember the US sent a LOT of JEWS to their deaths in WW2 by not allowing them into the country for safe haven...which served the purpose of HELPING the Zionists who invaded Palistein and then created Israel.

Not to mention George Soros admitted helping raust the Jews for Hitler while sending their money off to the rotschildes in Switzerland which they then used to help create Israel...
how does HE rate?...he (and his banker buddies ) financially invades countries

Looks like there are many worse Hitlers out there then Iran
Israel has probably gotten more Jews killed then Iran has and they invade countries.

Originally posted by munkey66
reply to post by sonnny1

 

so now it is a belief you have that they are trying to produce a bomb?
no actual facts, just repetition from the media telling you about the dangerous Iranians.

Truth is , Iran cannot prove they are not building a bomb, because in the mind of the public, they are.

[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

you cannot win against this

aye

reply to posts by popsmayhem


wolb

reply to post by Danbones



All it "implies" is that it's from the link the OP provided. Anything else and it's just your own speculation. He even said it was a "reply from the source" which is easily comprehensible.

I'm thinking you were just looking for something to complain about.

Sorry for you being wrong.

reply to post by sonnny1

I agree.Paid shills suck. I also want the paid shills that have been crying that Americans are a bunch of Warmongers booted also.

If only i got paid for everytime i pointed that out to the ignorant, i would be a billionare. It's the truth for the majority at least. why should anyone stating facts be "booted"?

(commence anti-americanism socialist/commie backfire in 3, 2, 1.....)

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd


Your quoting your own statements lmao deluded much?

Nope,just someone that understands that the Article you are USING,comes from "The Drum",Opinion article.

The man who wrote that statement,obviously is much smarter then the man who wrote the "opinionated" piece.

Not really, at all.


A nuclear weapon of mass destruction is totally different than a nuclear power capability. As such, they shouldn't be treated as one in the same.


Anybody who does is naive or ignorant.

Pakistan of all countries has nukes, and I dare say they are less civilized than Iran.

I cant believe the hypocrisy of the whole situation.

So what if there are developing countries that want Nuclear weapons, every other country has them and no'one bats an eyelid, but as soon as a persian '3rd world' country wants them everybody starts booing and hissing and wants to bomb them in pre-emptive strikes.

WTF???

Originally posted by reaxi0n
Iran: Enemies will face "rainy day" weapons

Hmm I wonder what those could be?

No need to worry. Israel will soon tell you what they are.

Originally posted by Dionisius
I cant believe the hypocrisy of the whole situation.

So what if there are developing countries that want Nuclear weapons, every other country has them and no'one bats an eyelid, but as soon as a persian '3rd world' country wants them everybody starts booing and hissing and wants to bomb them in pre-emptive strikes.

WTF???

It's rather simple. If Iran were to build a nuke then Israel and it's joke of a military will go to the bottom of the totem pole.