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Originally posted by Highground
reply to post by TKDRL
But... but... they're just trying to get the truth!
I see you like double standards.
Originally posted by Soshh
Below is a statement from Stratfor on release of company emails by Wikileaks:
In December, thieves compromised Stratfor's data systems and stole a large number of company emails, along with other private information of Stratfor readers, subscribers and employees. Those stolen emails apparently will be published by Wikileaks. This is a deplorable, unfortunate — and illegal — breach of privacy.
Some of the emails may be forged or altered to include inaccuracies; some may be authentic. We will not validate either. Nor will we explain the thinking that went into them. Having had our property stolen, we will not be victimized twice by submitting to questioning about them.
For subscribers and friends of Stratfor, we stress that the disclosure of these emails does not mean that there has been another hack of Stratfor's computer and data systems. Stratfor's data systems, which we have worked hard to rebuild since the December hack, remain secure and protected.
As with last year's hack, the release of these emails is a direct attack on Stratfor. This is another attempt to silence and intimidate the company, and one we reject. Under the continued leadership of founder and Chief Executive Officer George Friedman, Stratfor will not be silenced and will continue to publish the geopolitical analysis our friends and subscribers have come to rely upon.
Full Statement
Originally posted by plube
reply to post by buddhasystem
i agreed with your previos post and gave you a star...but i have to disagree with your mechanic analogy....if your mechanic is doing a shyte job then i would feel it would be within my rights to expose his crud work with a video cam.....but to the extent of breaking into his personal email....hmmmmm.
privacy is a very fragile line nowadays...
Originally posted by plube
reply to post by buddhasystem
i agreed with your previous post and gave you a star...but i have to disagree with your mechanic analogy....if your mechanic is doing a shyte job then i would feel it would be within my rights to expose his crud work with a video cam.....but to the extent of breaking into his personal email....hmmmmm.
privacy is a very fragile line nowadays...i mean look at all the fools willing to post their personal data...images...and what have you on sites like FB and Google with out any real thought.....i think sometimes it really comes down to user beware....if you don't want your info out there then never record it...and only speak to the person....IN REAL to whom you want to relay that info...then you are protected as best you can be.edit on 032929p://f27Monday by plube because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by buddhasystem
This stratfor is a private intelligence gathering agency who do ANYTHING to get information,,, its all sketchy stuff, bribes, and spy games, and weapons and drug trading,,,,,,, why should anonomouys a private intelligence gathering agency not be able to gather intelligence on stratfor? at all costs!
there are obviously no rules or morals for the military, and secret services, SNIP them!edit on 27-2-2012 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)[/
edit on 27-2-2012 by amongus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by buddhasystem
This stratfor is a private intelligence gathering agency who do ANYTHING to get information,,, its all sketchy stuff, bribes, and spy games, and weapons and drug trading,,,,,,, why should anonomouys a private intelligence gathering agency not be able to gather intelligence on stratfor? at all costs!
there are obviously no rules or morals for the military, and secret services, SNIP them!edit on 27-2-2012 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by amongus
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by buddhasystem
This stratfor is a private intelligence gathering agency who do ANYTHING to get information,,, its all sketchy stuff, bribes, and spy games, and weapons and drug trading,,,,,,, why should anonomouys a private intelligence gathering agency not be able to gather intelligence on stratfor? at all costs!
there are obviously no rules or morals for the military, and secret services, SNIP them!edit on 27-2-2012 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)
So, you are saying that anonymous did not gather intelligence on Stratfor?
Have you not read what anon did to Stratfor? If hacking into their database, and leaking 5 million emails isn't "gathering" then you need your frigging head checked.edit on 27-2-2012 by amongus because: (no reason given)edit on 27-2-2012 by amongus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by amongus
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by buddhasystem
This stratfor is a private intelligence gathering agency who do ANYTHING to get information,,, its all sketchy stuff, bribes, and spy games, and weapons and drug trading,,,,,,, why should anonomouys a private intelligence gathering agency not be able to gather intelligence on stratfor? at all costs!
there are obviously no rules or morals for the military, and secret services, SNIP them!edit on 27-2-2012 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)
So, you are saying that anonymous did not gather intelligence on Stratfor?
Have you not read what anon did to Stratfor? If hacking into their database, and leaking 5 million emails isn't "gathering" then you need your frigging head checked.edit on 27-2-2012 by amongus because: (no reason given)edit on 27-2-2012 by amongus because: (no reason given)
From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Draft Date: 2012-02-26 19:02:07 It is with great personal disappointment I have to inform you that I will resign from my position as CEO for Stratfor to immediate effect. Please rest assured that this decision was not an easy. But in the light of the recent events, especially the release of our company emails by WikiLeaks, I have decided that stepping down is in the best interest of Stratfor and its customer base. I want to emphasize that this will have no effect on Stratfor's business or its members and we will continue to provide state-of-the-art intelligence services. Regarding the latest breach, Stratfor is fully in control of the situation However, while I cannot take any personal responsibility for this incident, I still have to admit that mistakes have been made on our side. To be clear: We certainly do not condone any criminal activities by groups like Anonymous or other hackers. This is theft and we will continue to cooperate with law enforcement to bring those responsible to justice. But we must acknowledge that this incident would not have been possible if Stratfor had implemented stronger data protection mechanisms - which will be the case from now on. Indeed we will immediately move to implement the latest, and most comprehensive, data security measures. While I played no role in our technical operations, as the company's CEO I do accept full responsibility thus will resign from my position effective immediately. Again, my sincerest apologies for this whole unfortunate incident. Sincerely, George Friedman Link Tags: CEO of Stratfor resigns after Wikileaks releases emails
Assange would probably like to regain some of his former glory; Wikileaks' 2010 release of video from a U.S. army helicopter in Iraq sparked a small international incident and won praise from much of the media, including me. What better way to do it than by taking on an easy target and then claiming you'd exposed an international corporate-imperialist conspiracy? Stratfor is not the shadow-CIA that Wikileaks seems to believe it is, but much of the blame for this mistake actually lies with Stratfor itself.
The group has spent over a decade trying to convince the world that it is a for-hire, cutting-edge intel firm with tentacles everywhere. Before their marketing campaign fooled Anonymous, it fooled wealthy clients; before it fooled clients, it hooked a couple of reporters. A breathless October 15, 2001, Barron's cover story called Stratfor "a private quasi-CIA," the evidence for which appears to be this quote from Stratfor chief George Friedman: "The CIA has to spend thousands of dollars a month to have an agent in, say, Teheran or Peshawar to monitor local newspapers or political developments that we can find on the Internet within a few hours." In other words, they have Google. But Stratfor's first big break had come in 1999 with a spate of glowing articles such as this January piece in Time, which reported Stratfor's "striking" theory that the U.S. bombing of Iraq in December 1998 was "actually designed to mask a failed U.S.-backed coup." That theory, like so much of Stratfor's "intelligence," was discredited long ago.