Why do you love Iran?

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by HattoriHanzou

 

Not sure what you are speaking of. Post something factual and logical to go with the thread or post nothing at all. You are in no way being conductive to the argument with that kind of post.

edit on 13-2-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

I'll tell you what's I'm speaking of: You are part of a Hasbara operation, a boiler room operator. Your job is to be an internet warrior, to advance certain ideas and talking points where your bosses think that their bosses perspectives are lacking. You probably are in league with the original poster, or you came onto this thread because you are using the Megaphone tool from www.giyus.org...

You're operating right to the classic MO. Poor English skills are coupled with quotes taken from a number of documents that seem to be a common support pack given to you guys so that you can quote something with authority and hopefully steer any discussion in the direction you wish.

Anyway nice try.

reply to post by casenately


Unless i am mistaken , the only thing i should have refered to college about was the gentleman arguing with me about direct democracy and which i listed as my source is my text-book that is assigned to my political course.

He insulted the source and denied it. In which i linked the source directly , not sure what else you want. Something random off the internet or a source you spend thousands of dollars for.

reply to post by SaturnFX

So, generals should be able to declare war....
Rich.
And who are these generals that you put so much faith in? I guess, they have lots of medals and all, and they salute the flag, they will do what is right, huh?
Oh boy.

So, why do 'you' love Iran....What a thread. It just keeps getting better here on ATS. Why do YOU love Iran? How can you answer such a stupid question? It is like the OP coming into my house, not knowing me at all, and asks, "why do YOU love Iran?"
Stupid.

reply to post by HattoriHanzou


Poor English? Forgive me for not writing a formal assignment to you. I am giving you coherent argumentative material , though i am not proof reading at the moment because the thread was / may be moving rapidly , you shouldnt have had a problem with interpreting the material. If you want a coherent formal summary then perhaps you should stop acting like you are 10 years old and not talk about 2 or 3 different subjects at once. Having two others to argue along with doesnt make it any easier.

Grow up.

reply to post by SaturnFX



EXACTLY

Without invasion there is no threat. If a nuke was to successfully make it here then Iran would get turned in to an ash trey within 20 to 40 minutes.

But somehow a hand full of "terrorists" are somehow going to destroy America lol

The only country on this planet that is a threat to the United States is China they are capable of a invasion. Perhaps Russia, But even with this scenario the collateral damage would be so catastrophic on both sides with the Nukes as a the trump card this would render it a loss for said invaders. The idea of Iran being a threat is hilarious.

These kids need to stop playing so much Call of Duty and Battlefield 3

reply to post by NoLoveInFear46and2


I am part cherokee and blackfeet,what you posted had already
happened in america many years ago.

reply to post by OpusMarkII


Maybe "they" were seeking his approval on what to send
the U.S. for christmas after the election.

reply to post by duality90


Sorry to burst your bubble,a lot of people are not
allowed to voice their opinions and be heard.Some
may be "offended" by your opinion and their feelings
have to be protected first!

OP has been brainwashed to believe that the US is genuine in their own propaganda of Iran. There are benefits to the US to incite war with Iran...there always is with anything the US does. Over the last 100 years, Iran has not been involved anywhere close to the wars the US has. In the Iraq-Iran war, Iran was invaded and defended itself. They are not protagonists of war compared the US, and they do not involve themselves in the affairs of others like the US. Their government is stupid, but so the government of the US. The US has over 8000 nuclear weapons, yet given the US track record of repeated wars and involvement in inciting wars, conflict and revolutions, why should they have nuclear weapons at all. No one should. Lead by example, not by hypocrisy!

I believe the whole world is screwed and everything we see and hear regarding rule and government in all countries is not the real story. He have to stop secrecy if we are all to evolve and better humanity.

reply to post by jjf3rd77


Hahah I love how bad you make yourself look everytime you create a new thread.


Now you're saying you don't believe in any conspiracy theories but you still want to come on here and voice your opinion?


Why would you do that? Because you have nothing to do but pick fights with strangers on the internet? You've got some growing up to do bud

ETA: Just remembered you're the guy who started the thread about how you feel like you're "debating with children" on here and how you're "22 but very mature for your age."

Originally posted by tonycliffs

Originally posted by L00kingGlass

Originally posted by tonycliffs
Because this is the worldwide internet.

And a lot of commentors are members of al Qaeda, Hamas, the Taliban and any other number of terrorist organizations devouted to destroying America.

Oh, yeah. A lot of the commentors are socialists/communists.

It is the worldwide web.

All kings of the enemies of America can come here to say whatever it is they have to say.

Rubbish. Like these people who think if you don't agree with a Republicrat's view point you hate America.

Hating war does not make someone socialist, communist, terrorist, theocratic, or an enemy of America. Please turn off the mainstream media and think for yourself.

edit on 13-2-2012 by L00kingGlass because: (no reason given)

We can recognize 'American Hating Rhetoric' when we read it.

And we can tell you that we are taking notes on who hates America.

And I don't pay that much attention to the liberal mainstream media.

edit on 13-2-2012 by tonycliffs because: (no reason given)

Questions:

According to you, anyone NOT in favor of attacking Iran hates America, and that someone is "taking notes" on them because of it?

Shouldn't you be concerned about violent extremists that kill people rather than people on the internet who don't support war?

ps: Both the liberal and "conservative" msm is bs.

Originally posted by CantSay
OP has been brainwashed to believe that the US is genuine in their own propaganda of Iran. There are benefits to the US to incite war with Iran...there always is with anything the US does. Over the last 100 years, Iran has not been involved anywhere close to the wars the US has. In the Iraq-Iran war, Iran was invaded and defended itself. They are not protagonists of war compared the US, and they do not involve themselves in the affairs of others like the US. Their government is stupid, but so the government of the US. The US has over 8000 nuclear weapons, yet given the US track record of repeated wars and involvement in inciting wars, conflict and revolutions, why should they have nuclear weapons at all. No one should. Lead by example, not by hypocrisy!

I believe the whole world is screwed and everything we see and hear regarding rule and government in all countries is not the real story. He have to stop secrecy if we are all to evolve and better humanity.

I second that....

Btw. guess who brought the nuclear power to the Iran in the 1970s guess who wanted them to build power plants... right, the USA.

furthermore (just to give another example) it is said, that the Iran wants to wipe the Jews out of the world, this is simply untrue. They have the same rights in the Iran like the muslims. There are a few synagoges (is this the english word?) all over the country, they are allowed to celebrate their own jewish holidays, they are allowed to live to their own rules.
This is freedom... do not simply believe what the mass media wants you to believe.

And I have a question to the thread start: what is a flying stealth boat? I do not believes, that the Iran is able to build something like this


Why is it legal to kill Iranian scientists in a car bombing, while it is illegal to kill Israelian employees of the embassy in a car bombing?
I see there somekind of double standards.


Btw:


[align=center]Iran wants Israel wiped off the map.

reply to post by jjf3rd77

You haven't really done a good job explaining to me why you are on the Iranians side when you get everything you've ever wanted in the West. Would you want to LIVE in Iran? Would you swear allegiance to Allah and Ahmadinejad? Would you sacrifice your life for their cause?

The really sad thing is that you don't even realize how ignorant you sound to everyone.

Why don't you explain to us all How Iran is a threat to you personally, that you feel that we should go to war with them? Come on man,bite. I need a good laugh.

When I first read this post I thought the OP was trolling or being sarcastic, lol. I thought to myself, surely, no one can be that brainwashed - this is satire, right? I'm still in disbelief that someone can really believe this garbage about Iran.

Regardless, let me explain something. War with Iran, if we or Israel are seen as the aggressors, is war with Russia. War with Russia is something we cannot afford, unless you fancy hyperinflation and an abyss of debt from which we will never recover. Furthermore, war with Iran will not be entirely fought on Iranian soil, where we can watch the carnage on TV safely from our LA-Z boys cuddled in Snuggies next to our fireplaces; there will be attacks on American soil. Hell, even if we stage a false flag there will be American casualties, so let me ask you this question: Why do you want Americans to die? Do you hate America?

God forbid these armchair generals and warmongers get a taste of the tragedy that is war.

Iran is not a threat, they have been spewing this nonsense about Iran getting a nuclear bomb "within the next 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5,10, 15, years" since the 1990s. Regardless of whether Iran secretly gets a nuclear bomb, which they really would have no reason to pursue unless they kept on being threatened by the West like they are now, they are not dumb enough to launch a nuclear strike on any country. A nuclear bomb is a diplomatic bargaining chip, it basically says, "you cannot push us around, we have the capabilities to ensure the destruction of both of our countries."

It really isn't a matter of loving Iran, it is a matter of loving the people of my country and not wanting them to get dragged into another BS war for the sake of Halliburton and Exxon, and various other entities and corporations, to make a profit. If Israel wants a war, let them fight it. They have nukes and a very powerful air force; why should we send our kids to die for them?

Furthermore, who cares what a skewed mistranslation claims Iran wants, Iran has neither the means nor the lack of braincells required to try and wipe Israel off of the map.

Iran isn't the aggressor here, our government and our dumpster media are. Unfortunately, people still have faith in both entities, and so they will remain brainwashed as those in power throw us headfirst into oblivion. The real threat to America is its incompetent and uncaring government which does nothing FOR us, yet takes our freedoms away in an act to PROTECT us. Yeah, right. They are protecting themselves from the inevitable riots which will result in their idiotic governing.

Again.. did not get passed the 1st page of the thread, and don't need to.

Perfect thread for anti-American ATS members to get on and display their hatred for America.. again.

OP, I appreciate the point you try to get a cross, but these people all have different ideas on why they think America is the agressor. Some of them who claim you are only getting your information through MSM while they are getting theirs from their secret squirrel 'I know more than you do' alternative source.

Reality is.. nobody knows what the fcuk they are talking about. Everyone gives their opinion based on what they read, so vicariously their opinion is no more educated than yours.. unless they all have hacked into NSA files and know more than you or I.

I suggest ignoring anti-America supporters.. they hate America reguardless of what goes on. Frankly, I could give a rats ***. Let them hate America.. there's nothing you can do about it. Good post

31b

ETA: I know America isn't perfect.. it has its corrupt leaders just like every other country *cough*Iran*cough*.. and when the U.S. finally gets knocked out of power it will be another country for them to b*tch about, either that or they will be sorry .. let nature take its course and then maybe you might be able to play the 'I told you so' game.

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
When I first read this post I thought the OP was trolling or being sarcastic, lol. I thought to myself, surely, no one can be that brainwashed - this is satire, right? I'm still in disbelief that someone can really believe this garbage about Iran.

Regardless, let me explain something. War with Iran, if we or Israel are seen as the aggressors, is war with Russia. War with Russia is something we cannot afford, unless you fancy hyperinflation and an abyss of debt from which we will never recover. Furthermore, war with Iran will not be entirely fought on Iranian soil, where we can watch the carnage on TV safely from our LA-Z boys cuddled in Snuggies next to our fireplaces; there will be attacks on American soil. Hell, even if we stage a false flag there will be American casualties, so let me ask you this question: Why do you want Americans to die? Do you hate America?

God forbid these armchair generals and warmongers get a taste of the tragedy that is war.

Iran is not a threat, they have been spewing this nonsense about Iran getting a nuclear bomb "within the next 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5,10, 15, years" since the 1990s. Regardless of whether Iran secretly gets a nuclear bomb, which they really would have no reason to pursue unless they kept on being threatened by the West like they are now, they are not dumb enough to launch a nuclear strike on any country. A nuclear bomb is a diplomatic bargaining chip, it basically says, "you cannot push us around, we have the capabilities to ensure the destruction of both of our countries."

It really isn't a matter of loving Iran, it is a matter of loving the people of my country and not wanting them to get dragged into another BS war for the sake of Halliburton and Exxon, and various other entities and corporations, to make a profit. If Israel wants a war, let them fight it. They have nukes and a very powerful air force; why should we send our kids to die for them?

Furthermore, who cares what a skewed mistranslation claims Iran wants, Iran has neither the means nor the lack of braincells required to try and wipe Israel off of the map.

Iran isn't the aggressor here, our government and our dumpster media are. Unfortunately, people still have faith in both entities, and so they will remain brainwashed as those in power throw us headfirst into oblivion. The real threat to America is its incompetent and uncaring government which does nothing FOR us, yet takes our freedoms away in an act to PROTECT us. Yeah, right. They are protecting themselves from the inevitable riots which will result in their idiotic governing.

lol Russia.

Originally posted by flice
reply to post by theBigToe

 

That's propaganda bull #...

Here's the other side of the fence:
Israel razes palestian playground

I didnt even notice you had a link............

..........are you really saying that Israel bulldozing a Palestinian community center (with nobody inside of it...) is worse then Iran executing homosexuals and stoning adulterers to death?????????????????????

Well i like Iran not because of their politics, but because that is a very beautiful country with people who just want to live their lives. People always talk about war with Iran and all that, but we also need to remember that that is a country that has kids who have big dreams, which is why i hate war, too many kids die, but thats just my 2 pennies, anyway i pray that war doesn't happen.

reply to post by 31Bravo

I suggest ignoring anti-America supporters.. they hate America reguardless of what goes on.

There are anti-American people, and there are people that are people willing to look around at their environment, realize what is going on and hold their country to the same standards we pretend to hold other nations to.

It would serve you and others well to understand the difference!

Simply because some people do not goosestep in line with the orders given from above does not mean they lack affection for their country. But some would argue otherwise.

What the OP and others like him are advocating is the genocide of people they have never met, nor experienced, just because they follow a political ideology that manipulates the emotions of it's herds and small snippets of half-truths fed to them through biased organizations.

Be careful what you wish for! Next thing you know you may be on the receiving end of it!

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by HattoriHanzou

 

Poor English? Forgive me for not writing a formal assignment to you. I am giving you coherent argumentative material , though i am not proof reading at the moment because the thread was / may be moving rapidly , you shouldnt have had a problem with interpreting the material. If you want a coherent formal summary then perhaps you should stop acting like you are 10 years old and not talk about 2 or 3 different subjects at once. Having two others to argue along with doesnt make it any easier.

Grow up.

edit on 13-2-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

You don't have to argue with me. However, it is noteworthy that your English breaks down if you have to write at all quickly.