What level are you?
The man was a member of the masons for 25 years and left when he rose up in the ranks high enough to start grasping the true nature of it.
Some very close and dear friends of mine have
reached the pinnacle of Masonry and beyond, and they've shared a lifetime, some of them 60+ years before passing on. Most Worshipful Grand Masters
of the state, 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Masons, and Most Illustrious Grand Masters of the York Rite. I've known Grand Masters and Illustrious
Potentates that also served in the highest ranks of State Government. Governors, Ambassadors, FBI and Secret Service Agents. Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Shred
What level are you?
The man was a member of the masons for 25 years and left when he rose up in the ranks high enough to start grasping the true nature of it.
That's what all the so-called ex-Masons say. Too bad there isn't a shred of truth to it.
I know that a lot of people think they can watch a youtube video or read some book and get all the answers, but why? Why is an anonymous secret-teller, that has obviously already broken their oaths have any credibility over active members?
Sorry, but there just isn't any truth to the things they claim. They are charlatans and attention-seekers. If they claim to be ex-Masons bound by some oath, and then they supposedly violate that oath to spill some non-existent secrets, why would anyone believe their words? They've already admitted to being liars by their very claim.
Now that is ironic.... I like it! 
Aaaaa, I almost went for it, I had a huge post typed here, complete with a couple of veiled insults, and some clues to previous posts of mine, but
then I realized it was fruitless, and mostly off-topic. Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Shred
Disinfo or naivety? Coming from who?
*snip*
Not biting the bait tonight.
Originally posted by starseedflower
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Good grief, like Charlie Brown used to say, write down the numbers from 1 to 9, assign letters to every number from A to I, continue in the second row from J to S, do the same in the third row for the rest of the letters. Now every letter has a value. Go back pick up the Bible and occupy your mind with Cabala, please get back so you will probably be able to tell me what you have discovered. Good luck
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by SuperiorEd
You claim to be very religious, and you seem to have a lot of knowledge albeit some of it very fringe, but I trust you know your Bible and your Christian Faith.
So....... why does an omnipotent, all-powerful, all-knowing being need to assign some number to itself, and to us? All of this creation in 7 days, yet there is some great power struggle between dark and light? Why?
And no Masons are going any direction away from Christ, I said earlier that the vast majority of Masons are strictly Christians such as yourself. The majority of my Lodge is Christian in faith. The Masons on the internet are a little more diverse, because we do a lot of research and we are bombarded by people such as yourself quite often, so we have a unique perspective in comparison to most Masons. Nobody is turning away from Jesus though, but our fraternity is not strictly a Christian organization, we are accepting of all faiths.
Carbon is the sixth element because it has 6 protons in the nucleus, this isn't some random coincidence.
None of the Masonic symbols I'm aware of have anything to do with the number 6? The pillar measurements are straight out of the Bible from the building of King Solomon's Temple, surely you don't have a problem with Soloman do you? I have no idea what the hell you are talking about sometimes, but it certainly isn't Masonry. I could go through the whole list of operative tools and symbols from the degrees and lectures, as I'm doing in my mind right now, and I can't think of a single number 6.
You've outed yourself as a junkie of half-ass internet videos, and as someone that is not interested in fruitful and honest discussion. If you really want to know about Masonry, why not join a Lodge? You are a Christian, you would be welcomed to Lodge, you could learn the catechisms, you could go to open books, all of the secrets would be opened before you. I'm afraid you might be sorely disappointed in the lack of drama though.
Too close to the truth was I? Let the back tracking begin. Rothchild and voting fraud are on the front page. Better shut down the web. The jig is up. Judgment is coming.
