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THE TEHERAN 1976 CASE:
A declassified document related to the famous Teheran UFO and jet fighter encounter in 1976.
This is a capital case, acknowleged by a US intelligence agency, where a UFO encountered an aircraft, and reacted in a superior ant intelligent manner to the aircraft's interception attempt by shutting down temporarily the aircraft's weapons system.
The DIA evaluation termed this "An outstanding report. This case is a classic which meets all the criteria necessary for a valid study of the UFO phenomenon." The analysis called the UFO performance "awesome," noting that the objects displayed "an inordinate amount of maneuverability."
REFERENCES:
Title: DIA Defense Information Evaluation Report IR No. 6846013976
To: Censored
Author: Major Roland B. Evans, USAF, Military Capability Analyst.
Date: September 22, 1976
Length: 5 pages.
Classification: Top secret, Declassified
CC: None.
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I have a suspicion that government is embedded in MUFON and similar organizations so they can study UFOs while feigning disinterest.
Originally posted by cloudyday
That's exactly what I am wondering. I started reading Alexander's book again, but his conclusion is so hard to swallow. After all, Alexander was studying remote viewing and other psychic phenomena while working for the U.S. Army. But we are to believe that the government is no longer interested in UFOs? (Of course I'm a UFO believer, so maybe this makes more sense to skeptics.)
Originally posted by Gazrok
you'll see the founder of NICAP, for example...
Originally posted by NephraTari
I used to report my sightings to them but they never followed up or responded so I stopped reporting them. I don't trust them. oh and by them I mean mufon!edit on 13-2-2012 by NephraTari because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Gazrok
I have a suspicion that government is embedded in MUFON and similar organizations so they can study UFOs while feigning disinterest.
Just look at some of the suspected members of MJ-12, and you'll see the founder of NICAP, for example...
I'm sure there's some protocol for high level military sightings, but they are probably treated as witnessing possible foreign advanced aircraft, and secreted under that idea and compartment. (at least thats what I would do if I were them).
That way, it removes the "UFO" attachment, and doesn't raise any eyebrows on the subject.
Originally posted by The GUT
Okay, mebbe I'm wrong and mebbe I'm right, but here's the deal as per John Alexander.
One only has to look at his (Alexander's) continued interests and associations to realize what he personally believes and/or suspects.
From spoon-bending to rv to shamanism--he, and other so-called 'Aviary" members have an interest--a highly documented & intense, even scientific, interest--in subjects that concatenate more with Jacques Vallee's IDH, or quantam physics, than with anything ETH.
That goes for most of the 'birds'--from Puthoff to Green. Check 'em out and see for yourself.
He, Alexander, is telling the truth, most probably, about his background investigation as far as ETH, the government, and UFOs are concerned...but he's definitely holding back on what he and his NIDS cadre believe about the phenomena. Word.
Originally posted by The GUT
reply to post by cloudyday
I starred you, cloudyday, because I'm enjoying your mind and posts.
Radar data, in itself, however, is very SUSPECT. If you're interested, I'll elaborate more...but there is AMPLE evidence that the U.S. has, in the past, "spoofed" radar returns for defense purposes. Especially notable, in the testing phase, against our own radar specialists.
Don't get me wrong: I am in no way a skeptic, but it is, I feel, important to separate fact/fiction and actual intelligence operations from the truly anomalous events.
Tehran had visuals along with radar data and that in itself gives it some status. The reality remains, though: The U.S. is capable, and has expressed in documentation, the ability and/or intent to test such technology(radar spoof and/or visuals) for defensive purposes.
For example: I think Tehran was probably a truly anomalous event, but I also suspect the Washington Flap was a U.S. exercise.
So much signal-to-noise ratio it's hard to determine anything...other than the observation that someone is really, really, making sure the signal-to-noise ratio is ever present!
Originally posted by The GUT
One of the assertions that Vallee mentions in his books/musings, is the fact that the U.S. is highly-compartmentalized/separated from the larger mass of sightings/experiences world-wide.
This leaves the everyday researcher at a serious disadvantage in trying to discern patterns that might infer anomalous causations....or military psy-op influence.
SOME other nations are amenable to transparency it seems...but our most powerful allies; not so much. Mebbe because we've shared the little that we know with them or maybe they have figured out some of it by their own research.
The govt is, we can be most assured, as many researchers including Vallee assert, still involved in studying the phenomena.
Do they know anymore than we do? Maybe. Are they gonna share it without coercion: Probably not.
As far as the Russians go: They're A LOT more open to the anomalous than we are, but they've yet to show the efficacy that such "knowledge" would produce for them, if they possess it, on the world stage. Peace.
Originally posted by The GUT
reply to post by cloudyday
Someone, somewhere, here, tossed the idea out, maybe it was you, that the foo-fighters represented some sort of technology that wasn't really suited for war.
After considering that and what you said above, I do wonder about the possibility of the "Foos" being "mind-creations" of some sort.
Not of the pilots, but maybe a room full of Tibetan Monks somewhere trying to help out. Crazy...but interesting.
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
reply to post by cloudyday
I think the US and other forces are studying "somethings" that werent observed before within the last say 5 years. That something I think was not mentioned by potential other non Earth 1z who also may not of known. SO in short yes they are observing along with many others..edit on 2/14/12 by Ophiuchus 13 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Flint2011
The best way to avoid any inter-agency knowledge is to mask the operations for investigating said matters under the guise of something else. Even a greater method is that no documentation ever be made in paper or digital format. All evidence is destroyed immediately upon investigation.
Just imagine how many secrets and historical documents have already been destroyed for the sake of said National Security.