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How green zealots are destroying the planet!

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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:03 AM
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reply to post by jimbo999
 


you are making assumption then judgements, the ridiculing me based on those. they have no relationship to reality btw, but if it entertains you, go ahead...


why not just ask me what i think?
to simple, right?
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by AGWskeptic
 

welcome brother skeptic!

the official dogma of green zealots has been debunked in the first few pages, have they apologized yet, for their womanly hysteria?


Errmmm?? Sorry?

Nope, nothing of the sort has happened. People who read The Daily Mail in the UK are the same type of people who read National Enquirer in the US.

Just sayin'...



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by jimbo999
 


you are making assumption then judgements, the ridiculing me based on those. they have no relationship to reality btw, but if it entertains you, go ahead...


why not just ask me what i think?
to simple, right?
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You've already told us what you think.

Now people are telling you what they think.

It's called a forum for a reason...



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:06 AM
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care to provide proof for your statements?

not that it matters. it can be raise important opinions non the less. again, demonstrating your arrogance, and judgement mentality.
you do not read, just judge, judge away.
good for you.
its a safe world in your dreamland.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:07 AM
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yeah, quote ME WHERE I SAY what you think I think regarding this subject.
You mistake my questions for judgements, but I shall prove you wrong.
QUOTE ME.
BUT GO AHEAD QUOTE my opinion, and I SHALL even EXPLAIN that.
you have NO IDEA.
Dim as a dead lightbulb, I would say.
QUOTE ME ON THE TAXES, which you said.
QUOTE AWAY, or wallow in you arrogance.
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FYI, I am a deep ecologist. I am more green then you ever will be.
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by jimbo999
 


yeah, quote ME WHERE I SAY what I think.
Don't just quote my opinion of an article, because thats an opinion.
QUOTE ME of what I think.
you have NO IDEA.
Dim as a dead lightbulb, I would say.
QUOTE ME ON THE TAXES, which you said.
QUOTE AWAY, or wallow in you arrogance.
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FYI, I am a deep ecologist. I am more green then you ever will be.
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A Newbie around here, ain't you?

lol!



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by jimbo999

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by jimbo999
 


yeah, quote ME WHERE I SAY what I think.
Don't just quote my opinion of an article, because thats an opinion.
QUOTE ME of what I think.
you have NO IDEA.
Dim as a dead lightbulb, I would say.
QUOTE ME ON THE TAXES, which you said.
QUOTE AWAY, or wallow in you arrogance.
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FYI, I am a deep ecologist. I am more green then you ever will be.
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A Newbie around here, ain't you?

lol!


So you cannot quote me.
I though so.
Dream on my friend...dream on.
Mamma gonna take sour hand and make it alright, make the bogeyman go away...



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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We need a proper debate on how to save the planet, and make it better.
We do not need hysteria!
We need to pull together, and separate the wheat from the chaff.
In this case people making a living on the idea of global warming, and those who want to do all to clean up the world.
The 2 people are not the same!
They plant huge fields for biodiesel, killing wildlife.
They create hysteria and cloud our understanding.

We need facts, and attainable ideals.
We need people who are truly green.
Green enough to fly against conventional wisdom when it is false and wrong.
We need people who are humble, and truly love the Earth.

Now you may all quote me on that!

This will only be achieved through education, and the deconstruction of false myths, ideologies, propaganda, and faith.
Its hard to battle with the arrogant, brainwashed, so I accept the language of the author in the article.
You used the tools you are dealt to deliver the message, in this great chaos of noise.
The authors view should be heard.
They should be though about.
It is important.
It is vital for our survival, that we make the right choices, not choices forced on wrong interpretations, or choices that do more harm then good, but are excellent propaganda points.

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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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OK - here you go then.... Mr "Deep Green".

Quote 1:

"the official dogma of green zealots has been debunked in the first few pages, have they apologized yet, for their womanly hysteria?"

Green Zealots"? You must mean those "Evil" Environmental scientists huh? Trying to save the planet and all that kind of stuff - they should be ashamed of themselves!! What's with this anti-female quip?

Quote 2:

"They should apologize, and we should approach the issue of global climate change, and running out of fossils fuels with rational minds, not women induced hysteria."

Hmm..you certainly have a very low opinion of women huh? How 19th Century of you.

Quote 3:

"Telling it like it is!
Time to get rid of the watermelon people.
Green on the outside, red on the inside! "

Ahhh... so now they are not only "evil environmentalists', but "evil communists" too!! LOL!!

Quote 4:

"It is a about global warming, so you need to learn to READ better. "

And you need to learn the English language better! Most of your posts seem to be at a grade 4 level.

Quote 5:

"Sigh.
It an article, a viewpoint, by a skeptic, written by himself.
What is there not to trust?
You can argue the points made, but not reading it.
Oh well.
Sigh. "

It's an article written by a Big Oil stoolie in a Right-Wing UK rag, based on non-peer reviewed hearsay from government-controlled state media organizations (BBC and the Met) in a country currently ruled by the Ultra-Right Conservatives. So yes, I would be highly dubious, to say the least.

Quote 6:

"Please provide a CENSORSHIP LIST FOR ME.
Commie."

Name calling when people disagree with you is highly immature. As I said, you are obviously a Newbie around here - but I can tell you now, people on ATS with far more knowledge on this subject than you will rip you apart in no time. Really.

By the way - here's the UK Met Office debunking the very data your story claims they released!

www.metoffice.gov.uk...



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:46 AM
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I stand by my comments.
You are so religiously indoctrinated that for you there can only be one viewpoint, one truth.
platos truth virus at its best.
I am not anti female, and read the above post for further clarification.
I love women.
I do not like men behaving like women, crying and hysterics.
Your met report has been addressed.
As for my comment, I still stand by them.
YOU DISCREDIT THE MAN, not THE CONTENT.
Provide proof he is a OIL MAN, as it where.
But even then, the content should be judged.
Again, read my above post.
You are the very definition of a commie thinker. It is not name calling but a fact.

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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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Originally posted by BBalazs

Originally posted by jimbo999

Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by jimbo999
 


yeah, quote ME WHERE I SAY what I think.
Don't just quote my opinion of an article, because thats an opinion.
QUOTE ME of what I think.
you have NO IDEA.
Dim as a dead lightbulb, I would say.
QUOTE ME ON THE TAXES, which you said.
QUOTE AWAY, or wallow in you arrogance.
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FYI, I am a deep ecologist. I am more green then you ever will be.
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A Newbie around here, ain't you?

lol!


So you cannot quote me.
I though so.
Dream on my friend...dream on.
Mamma gonna take sour hand and make it alright, make the bogeyman go away...


You my friend, are Done & Dusted. I have better things to do than deal with fools like you. You won't be around ATS too much longer I'll warrant...



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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read above.
I may not be around, but you mind is already gone.
you have been defeated intellectually and now you run away and appeal to authority.
typical commie groupthink.
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:51 AM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by jimbo999
 

I stand by my comments.
You are so religiously indoctrinated that for you there can only be one viewpoint, one truth.
platos truth virus at its best.
I am not anti female, and read the above post for further clarification.

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Judging by your OWN quotes you are not only sexist - but hysterically anti-Communist to a McCarthy-like extreme, quick to fire immature slurs at anyone who disagrees with you, and woefully incapable of stringing a sentence of actual English together...

"Nuff said.

Adios.
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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We need a proper debate on how to save the planet, and make it better.
We do not need hysteria!
We need to pull together, and separate the wheat from the chaff.
In this case people making a living on the idea of global warming, and those who want to do all to clean up the world.
The 2 people are not the same!
They plant huge fields for biodiesel, killing wildlife.
They create hysteria and cloud our understanding.

We need facts, and attainable ideals.
We need people who are truly green.
Green enough to fly against conventional wisdom when it is false and wrong.
We need people who are humble, and truly love the Earth.

Now you may all quote me on that!

This will only be achieved through education, and the deconstruction of false myths, ideologies, propaganda, and faith.
Its hard to battle with the arrogant, brainwashed, so I accept the language of the author in the article.
You used the tools you are dealt to deliver the message, in this great chaos of noise.
The authors view should be heard.
They should be though about.
It is important.
It is vital for our survival, that we make the right choices, not choices forced on wrong interpretations, or choices that do more harm then good, but are excellent propaganda points.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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you do not merit proper english, you are not on that level.
you are on a judgmental level.
just because I don't embrace female characteristics, unlike you, doesn't make me anti women.
apparently its all about crying and hysteria for you.
shall we have a contest to see, who had better looking girlfriends?
that seems to be about your level.
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posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 03:25 AM
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*Ahem*

How about we all be a little more civil.


...you know, those Terms and Conditions you all agreed to when you signed up...

Which means:
- Hold off on the personal jabs
- Stick to the topic and not stick it to eachother
- etc etc



Cheers



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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I will take that into consideration and moderate myself, and in turn apologize for any assumed insults.
However, it should also be taken into account, that you cannot just disprove something without actually reading the article.
Character assassinations, bait and switches, and parroting of official propaganda are not intellectual debate.

So I apologize for my words that maybe construed as insults.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 07:46 AM
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I saw this article whilst I waited to have my hair cut. I'd never actually buy the paper. Delingpole's opinion has no more clout than anyone here for instance. He's just batting for the status quo. The middle-class right wing actually love the thought of their way of life being destroyed, it gives them a shot of vigour that they have something against which to rail. Usually they don't deny the physical existence of their bete noir homosexuality, socialism, immigration, whatever - because they can keep something outside of themselves in their sights. But they have no choice but to deny the very existence of manmade damage to the environment, because the alternative - that our own actions are what's sending us to hell in a handcart - is too awful to contemplate.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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thats not how I saw the article.
i think it is more in terms of deep ecology. but we are all different.



posted on Feb, 5 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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OP spend some time here mate..the arguments are laid out as simply or as substantively as you'll need them..click on each point for more info..hope it's worth your while


www.skepticalscience.com...



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