Lies! - Reactor 4 FULL Of Fuel - Pacific Ocean May Be Lost

Great job keeping this topic alive , I myself have not heard crap from my TV either & run onto this video just this morning that brought it all flooding back to me . I was doing a little bit of research on our very nice December & January temps this year when I saw we may be getting a little more than we bargained for . I hope the link helps or is at least interesting to some .
John

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Was there ever any update to the seals in Alaska? I saw on the first page someone said they had found seals with radiation sickness, was this confirmed???? I know the article about the seals, but never heard the end results.

reply to post by Darkblade71

See this post within this thread or this post in my thread about the seals.

The update is...

"it will take several weeks."

Post which includes text of email I received from the professor quoted in the original article about the seals.

ETA

Cool avatar btw! Isn't that Sarevok?

i have a friend who is planning on moving to arizona from maine. i know people have been posting about radiation levels on the west coast, ect. i would like people's opinion. radiationwise, would you feel safe in arizona? all opinions would be greatly appreciated. thanks, ozmaoz47

Do a search, there are dozens of news reports out there, here's just a short clip of news:
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The University of California at Berkeley detected cesium levels in San Francisco area milk above over EPA limits … and even higher than they were 6 months ago.

Finnish public television says that cesium from Fukushima has been detected in lichens, fungi and elk and reindeer meat in Finland.

The Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency confirmed a radiation cloud over the East Coast of Australia.

The West Coast of Canada is getting hit by debris from Japan … and at least some of it is likely radioactive.

I don't completely understand this though. Weren't all 6 reactors full of fuel, isn't the point of them? Wouldnt they all have some degree of fuel in them due to their being in use?

reply to post by PageAlaCearl


Don't bother, this is old news. Many of us who tried to stop this have been pretty much told to leave it alone. They need to power up 5 and 6 to pump out the sump wells of 4 before the corium breaks through to the water trapped in there. Too hot now to approach, so they are trying to make use of that nasty infrastructure. Dahini is just to make things seems normal to the press. Business as usual. The first discharges from the primary sump were detected in the days proceeding the first meltdown. COnfirms much of what your source is saying.

Gundersen tried his best, as did so many other phenominal physicists and engineers, who warned that the pace of the response and the course of action was leading to a catastropic loss of the complexe, and a toxic discharge on a scale of multiple times that of the worst bombs ever produced. Even Gorbachev weighed into the debate, reminding the Japanese of the terrible mistakes made during Chernobyl, and how urgent the situation was.

Instead, Obama sais "Don't worry", and the media ends coverage. Scientists are bumped off, or forced into obscurity, and the people of Japan are completely irradiated. Meanwhile on the homefront, the safe exposure levels for humans, levels which were already too high to begin with, are significantly raised. Our food is contaminated, our rain, our air. Vancouver, Seattle, the entire state of Oregon start to see a rise in still born children.

My grandfather had a hand in the original mark one, and aside from the extreme guilt of legacy, there comes a personal obligation to do everything in my power to try and stop this mess. So, I volunteered to a few groups who were planning missions which were later refused, and went through every number in my rather dated rolodex , sending out many letters. I put every ounce of my credibility on the line, even postesting messages on conspiracy websites like this, asking for help to start some kind of viral effort to pass the word on that someone was interested in helping. I even posted classified documents in photobucket for some "cred". I was so Naive. It seemed unfathomable at that time that anyone would actually want to keep an open uncontrolled thermonuclear reaction active, especially one in close proximity to a major Urban develpment. Nevermind, in a country considered to be home of the smartest technical minds in the world. I was crushed when they vented those sumps. 10 million gallons of the most toxic water known to man pumped knowingly into the beautiful Pacific abyss, home to countless life forms. In the days before I had tried in Vein to warn the Russians on the east coast, to prepare for the worst. I pleaded with a retired Col I knew, to warn the people in his hometown of Vladivostock. Instead, they threaten my girlfriend, my Achilles heel.

These are not men, they are monsters. Pure evil. Keeping alive a fire that will cook that island for centuries. As for Tepco, they are nothing more than Auschwitz oven makers.

BTW, Has anyone heard from the Redneck. Hope your already buddy. I often wondered if he was the second leak at Scandia. He dropped off the big thread after a good month of helping many people keep calm during the mess. If he's around, he deserves some respect for that.

AX

FTNWO

Originally posted by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by kn0wh0w
I don't care wether or not people are too scared to read this but this deserves more attention ATS!

Look at the response to this, and youve got your answers about how much ATSers really care. If the title was "Cop shoots dog!" or "Leftist Death Panels Coming to Abort Your Baby!" it would have 30 pages of replies in 12 hours.

But when Americans start dying in droves and the West is uninhabitable, ATSers will find a way to blame it on Obama, "liberals" and "socialists", I am sure of that.

edit on 2-2-2012 by aching_knuckles because: (no reason given)

Pick another spot to spew partisan rhetoric...........there is nothing in this post about any of that.......


The reason it doesnt get any attention in the media is because they dont want anyone to know, if it werent for the internet and the ability to post information no one would know..

This is scary stuff, but wouldnt it spread to other places than just that area and the western seaboard?

How soon would we see mass die offs?

We got Chernoble rammed down our throats because it was ex "soviet" so made good propaganda, at least there they managed (at the cost of very many lives) to put a concrete "jacket" on it and stop the radiation spreading.
When its one of your allies....brush it under the carpet, if only ignoring problems made it go away.
This incident... I refuse now to call it an accident, the accident was months ago and its been lack of action thats turned it into an unimaginable catstrophe.

Hey guys, this is an outrage..
but i would also like to know...
if i live in Cali do you think its safe to eat sushi?
real talk this spot is right next to the Santa Monica pier.
the fish comes directly from the pacific.

It is truly unbelievable how much Flags and Stars Gossip get, not only here!

People, do a little bit of Research before you start a Thread ,
most important look at the History of the Original Source!

Fukushima-Diary is here just the Messanger
but he failed like many other People to compare the Message with original Data!

According to F-D the Fuel Pool of Nr. 4 collapsed already Months ago,
the whole Building was falling apart, same source reported that the SFP
exploded in the Week after the Tsunami, also he claim to be in Exchange
with a Tepco-Worker (Happy 20900?) who provide him with News,
but all this Information dissolve in a Logic Cloud (Speak Bubble),
he said also that there is a massive Censorship and he needed to leave
Japan because "some People" was hunting him down
but this Happy 20900 Guy can post Interns after Interns from the major command Center!

There is so much that discredit Fukushima-Diary, including Enenews,
both fail to do the basics (Research)

They just want Headlines,
and this is a bad Style like Daily Mail or Magazines with nude Girls,
real Journalism and Blogging is something else- we can called "Harm Reduction"
but the News from both Websites make the People sad,
we are all in the plight to search for truth and do get the information out
but with a behavior both sources are showing we will fail

Originally posted by Lawlz0rz
Hey guys, this is an outrage..
but i would also like to know...
if i live in Cali do you think its safe to eat sushi?
real talk this spot is right next to the Santa Monica pier.
the fish comes directly from the pacific.

Yes, it is safe to eat Sushi when you avoid Meussels from the north of Japan,
when you eat Sushi you mostly eat only a few Gram of one individual Fish
and you eat different Types like Tuna which is a Traveler!

reply to post by SceoticalSam


I think it is intentional. The leftist's realized no one was buying their "pollution will kill the ocean in a decade" line; so I can easily imagine radical leftist's in the Obama administration + opportunistic globalist's and progressives, all jumping on the "we have to hurt the Earth in order to save the Earth" bandwagon.

In the end they will end up as the first "victims" of the coming fascist revolution. With how badly society has already been deconstructed, + this travesty, the rise of fascism is all but guaranteed.

Originally posted by Lawlz0rz
Hey guys, this is an outrage..
but i would also like to know...
if i live in Cali do you think its safe to eat sushi?
real talk this spot is right next to the Santa Monica pier.
the fish comes directly from the pacific.

Quit eating seafood. You may also want to cease eating Pineapples. Hawaii's pineapple plantations have to be absorbing radioactive particles.

Originally posted by Plotus
Do a search, there are dozens of news reports out there, here's just a short clip of news:
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The University of California at Berkeley detected cesium levels in San Francisco area milk above over EPA limits … and even higher than they were 6 months ago.

Finnish public television says that cesium from Fukushima has been detected in lichens, fungi and elk and reindeer meat in Finland.

The Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency confirmed a radiation cloud over the East Coast of Australia.

The West Coast of Canada is getting hit by debris from Japan … and at least some of it is likely radioactive.

You forgot one:

Last Resort In Effect! Radiation Levels Are Now Determined To Be IRREVERSIBLE - Captain Planet Called In To Handle Matters

I agree with Sceotical Sam, Chernobyl was big thing but the Russians at least manage to put the disaster under some sort of control. With the Japanese all quiet & ????

Originally posted by skmk01
I agree with Sceotical Sam, Chernobyl was big thing but the Russians at least manage to put the disaster under some sort of control. With the Japanese all quiet & ????

can i ask you about the type of control?

1986 we got a short Message a day provided by afir Itartass,
about Fukushima we can read ca. 1.000 News Article a 24h!

Chernobyl is a sleeping Dragon, like F'Shima!

Paranoia prevails as usual on the internet. I'm sorry, but the fact that the Soviet's failed miserably in their attempt to hide the true scale of the impact of the Chernobyl explosion and eventually came clean is telling me that all this hoopla surrounding the Japanese situation is all hearsay and internet BS. Not to mention, China would JUMP at the opportunity to flex it's muscles and remind Asia who is in charge - but they haven't. Also, I don't hear any of the usual leftist environmental organizations going crazy as the loony-tunes crowd is. Let's not forget, since the early 60's a number of incidents have left at least 6 Soviet and American nuclear powered submarines at the bottom of the ocean with their reactor cores completely exposed to the environment they have come to rest at.

reply to post by AlphaExray


Looking at TheRedneck's profile, one can see that he is active and healthy. I've messaged him about a few things and he usually answers within a day or so, so he's still actice on the boards.

Looking at his posts, one sees that his most recent post was made last night (as of this writing) and one can see that he has been in various threads.

I like the rest of your post, you certainly seem to be genuine and your story has thering of truth to it. Too bad it seems that this travasty as been allowed to linger on, though I don't know much of what else could be done.

Bury it in a mountain of sand?

But then you have to take all of the spent fuel in to account. That has to either be stored indefinitely, or somehow burned in Thorium reactors.

But it looks like their Monju reactor is about to be mothballed, so that negatesv the ability to burn off used fuel from BWR or PWR power plants.

Besides every other county has shelved plans for similar reactors due to the inherent dangers of the technology. You seem to know what you're talking about, so what are your ideas on this?

A number of Bible scholars consider the term Wormwood to be a purely symbolic representation of the bitterness that will fill the earth during troubled times, noting that the plant for which Wormwood is named, Artemisia absinthium, or Mugwort, Artemisia vulgaris, is a known Biblical metaphor for things that are unpalatably bitter.[8][9] One interesting theory is that nuclear weaponry could be called wormwood. For example: Ukrainian synonymy 'wormwood'. They do poison the water where they are detonated, thus explaining the correlation. Some[10] even point to the Chornobyl disaster as a possible fulfillment of this prophecy, as the name Chornobyl is said to translate to "wormwood."[

in the Book of Revelation: "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon a third of the rivers, and upon the springs of water; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and a third of the waters became Bitter; and many people had died of the waters, because they were made bitter." (Revelation 8:10, 11 - KJB).

Although many people associate heavy water primarily with its use in nuclear reactors, pure heavy water is not radioactive. Commercial-grade heavy water is slightly radioactive due to the presence of minute traces of natural tritium, but the same is true of ordinary water. Heavy water that has been used as a coolant in nuclear power plants contains substantially more tritium as a result of neutron bombardment of the deuterium in the heavy water (tritium is a health risk when ingested in large quantities).

reply to post by oldrockinchair


What are you saying? If they want to save their country then they have to build these cloud-busters. Sure, they are dangerous, but they need it.

I mean, I know what they can do. Direct it towards a gun, and it will never fire, even with all the stuff in place. Why? Because the reaction that is required for the bullet to shoot out, is not there.

So why are you saying that it's a bad idea to bring this solution up now?