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Originally posted by FreedomCommander
reply to post by PageAlaCearl
All may not be lost. There is one technique that I know of, and it involves building a turret Cloud-buster.
Cloud-busters are some really good things but they are dangerous, more dangerous than Nuclear materials. And for that reason it can make radioactive materials loose their charge and turn them into a harmless lump of metal.
This is a cheap solution and Japan can do it in a matter of days, putting turret cloud-busters along the coast of the accident and point them towards the accident and towards the reaction, a.k.a. the Pacific.
Originally posted by aLLeKs
The most of you should inform theirselves about nuclear power a bit better.
I am not an employee of a nuclear company nor get I paid by a company. I am just a regular student studying Automotive. I am going to Japan in a few weeks for half a year.
I am not concerned!
And let me tell you why.
The radiation messured 20km away from the reactor, is only as high as detected in Munich! Is there somebody afraid of travelling to Munich?
We have background radion, and in the most parts of Europe this background radiation is higher then 30km away from Fukushima. How come? Because of Tschernobyl and nuclear bomb tests.
Is there anybody leaving Europe? No.
It is true, that the meltdown is definetely a big problem. (Only occured, because this type of reactor had no containment). But it is a fact, that the radiation is not as high as you want it to be.
Lots of experts can tell you the radiation which is currently detected there. If you don't trust Tepco, you can at leat trust independent messurements.
Of course you should not stay directly in the area surrounding the reactor, but 30km away is safe.
Btw. did you know, that we in Germany sell drinking water for babies, which would not get through the quality checks in Japan, because of its radiation? Japan has one of the strictest controlling systems concerning food.
The meltdown could have been stopped, but now it is too late. And even if there will be another earthquake (there were lots of quakes in the last year), nothing will happen there as long as not tsunami will occur.
Btw. before I forget, this is a nice site about current radiation in several areas of Japan (I am not sure how accurate though)
microsievert.net...edit on 2-2-2012 by aLLeKs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
...If the title was "Cop shoots dog!" or "Leftist Death Panels Coming to Abort Your Baby!" it would have 30 pages of replies in 12 hours.
But when Americans start dying in droves and the West is uninhabitable, ATSers will find a way to blame it on Obama, "liberals" and "socialists", I am sure of that.
Originally posted by 12voltz
I guess all the hate and anger has worn down the people who give a damn.Its a situation that cant be fixed and as usual the perps have moved on .
Originally posted by kix
so lets do some math:
300 tones released of plutonium are 661386786.6 pounds and if they kill just 1 million people that gives us =
661386786600000 people dead like a hundred times the actual people living now on earth....
LET THE FUN BEGIN, why people just dismiss this kind of tragedy? Ignorance is Bliss...
Water, water, everywhere: In April, the Fukushima Daiichi plant sent 68 million becquerels per cubic meter of radioactive materials into the Pacific, making it the largest accidental release in history.
This latest analysis, reported in the 1 December 2011 issue of the journal Environmental Science & Technology, indicates that the concentration in ocean water poses no direct threat to humans or marine life. However, accumulation in marine sediment could be of concern for decades, says Ken Buesseler, a marine chemist at Woods Hole who was involved in the research.
In the new paper, the researchers show that in the presence of alkali metal ions such as sodium — for example, in seawater — these clusters are stable enough to persist in solution or as small particles even when the oxidizing agent is removed.
In other words, these clusters could form on the surface of a fuel rod exposed to seawater and then be transported away, surviving in the environment for months or years before reverting to more common forms of uranium, without peroxide, and settling to the bottom of the ocean. There is no data yet on how fast these uranium peroxide clusters will break down in the environment, Navrotsky said.