reply to post by mnmcandiez
Nothing is safe. It's a matter of allowing adults to make their own decisions.
Over 1,000 chemicals have been reported in roasted coffee, and 19 are known rodent carcinogens
Coffee can damage the lining of the gastrointestinal organs, causing gastritis and ulcers.
It can also cause anxiety and irritability, in some with excessive coffee consumption, and some as a withdrawal symptom. Coffee can also cause
insomnia in some. In others it can cause narcolepsy.
This increase in LDL levels is an indicator that coffee raises cholesterol. The Baylor study suggests a possible link between cafestol, kahweol and
higher levels of cholesterol in the body.
Coffee consumption can lead to iron deficiency anemia in mothers and infants.
You can make anything sound scary.
I should note that I am not saying smoking doesn't kill you. It does. Second hand smoke, on the other hand, has been the catalyst for all these laws
and the science behind that is inconclusive despite what the anti-smoking lobby groups would have you believe.
I will post an email I sent to such a anti-smoking group here in Australia, to which I am yet to get a reply:
Thanks for those links as well.
I have spent some time reading the Surgeon Generals 2006 Report on second hand smoke and would just like to present some points outlining
disinformation and manipulation conducted by anti-smoking lobbyists and groups.
Here is what the Surgeon General's report concluded regarding the effects of secondhand smoke exposure on heart disease and lung cancer:
"The evidence is sufficient to infer a causal relationship between secondhand smoke exposure and lung cancer among lifetime nonsmokers. ... The
pooled evidence indicates a 20 to 30 percent increase in the risk of lung cancer from secondhand smoke exposure associated with living with a smoker.
... The evidence is sufficient to infer a causal relationship between exposure to secondhand smoke and increased risks of coronary heart disease
morbidity and mortality among both men and women."
Here is what the Surgeon General's press release stated:
"Even brief exposure to secondhand smoke has immediate adverse effects on the cardiovascular system and increases risk for heart disease and lung
cancer, the report says."
That statement from the press release is a gross misrepresentation of the facts.
The press release claims that a significant finding of the Surgeon General's report is that: "Even brief exposure to secondhand smoke has immediate
adverse effects on the cardiovascular system and increases risk for heart disease and lung cancer."
To re-phrase this for clarity, the Surgeon General is publicly claiming that brief exposure to secondhand smoke increases risk for heart disease and
But there is absolutely no evidence to support this claim. Certainly, no evidence is presented in the Surgeon General's report to support this claim.
And certainly, the Surgeon General's report draws no such conclusion.
In fact, such a conclusion flies in the face of common medical sense. How could it possibly be that a brief exposure to secondhand smoke can cause
heart disease? It takes many years for heart disease to develop. It takes years of exposure to tobacco smoke even for a smoker to develop heart
disease. I estimate that it takes at least 25 years of exposure (based on the fact that very few smokers are diagnosed with heart disease before age
So how could it possibly be that for an active smoker, heart disease takes 25 years of exposure to tobacco smoke to develop, but for a passive smoker,
it only takes a single, transient, brief exposure?
It is also quite misleading to tell the public that a brief exposure to secondhand smoke increases the risk of lung cancer. There is certainly no
evidence for this and the Surgeon General's report itself draws no such conclusion. In fact, the report makes it clear that most of the studies
linking secondhand smoke and lung cancer studied nonsmokers with many years of intense exposure.
The other claims made by the Surgeon General are also quite misleading, although perhaps not as absurdly inaccurate.
"Breathing secondhand smoke for even a short time can damage cells and set the cancer process in motion. Brief exposure can have immediate harmful
effects on blood and blood vessels, potentially increasing the risk of a heart attack."