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Chaos Magic does not really contain the notion of a soul. Certainly there is no 'true' you. The closest there is, is Kia. Think of it as a spark of essence or soul. The animating force. It does not contain any aspects of your identity however (as a side note, I also identify Kia with Will, but this is a personal interpretation). There is nothing about you that is sacred. If you are a liberal, than you must recognise that a different upbringing would have resulted in your being a conservative. If you are not a racist, know that had things been different, you might be a racist now. If you are bitter and depressed, this is not How Things Must Be - there's no law in the universe that says you could never have been joyful. In Chaos Magic, because the person is also a microcosm of chaos, the personality itself is seen as fluid and changeable. A variant belief among some Chaotes is that the individual possesses multiple 'selves' possessing different qualities, having different functions etc. For example, Carroll occasionally refers to the 'magician self,' as the personality that comes to the fore for magical workings and so forth. As magicians, Chaotes seek power over their own identity - not to forge one identity, but to have the freedom of options. Chaos magic is essentially about freedom. Peter Carroll includes 'metamorphosis' in Liber Null and Psychonaut as part of the basic curriculum.
I found dramatic racial and gender shifts in persons diagnosed with schizophrenia at Ionia during the 1960s—so much so that schizophrenia's racial and gendered transformation became the central narrative of my book. This shift became apparent very early in my research. Before the 60s, Ionia doctors viewed schizophrenia as an illness that afflicted nonviolent, white, petty criminals, including the hospital's considerable population of women from rural Michigan. Charts emphasized the negative impact of "schizophrenogenic styles" on these women's abilities to perform their duties as mothers and wives.
To say the least, these patients were not seen as threatening. This patient wasn't able to take care of her family as she should, read one chart; another, This patient is not well adjusted and can't do her housework; and another, She got confused and talked too loudly and embarrassed her husband.
By the mid- to late-1960s, however, schizophrenia was a diagnosis disproportionately applied to the hospital's growing population of African American men from urban Detroit. Perhaps the most shocking evidence I uncovered was that hospital charts "diagnosed" these men in part because of their symptoms, but also because of their connections to the civil rights movement. Many of the men were sent to Ionia after convictions for crimes that ranged from armed robbery to participation in civil-rights protests, to property destruction during periods of civil unrest, such as the Detroit riots of 1968. Charts stressed how hallucinations and delusions rendered these men as threats not only to other patients, but also to clinicians, ward attendants, and to society itself. You'd see comments like Paranoid against his doctors and the police. Or, Would be a danger to society were he not in an institution.
Originally posted by kwakakev
Since it is not practical to put a person into a particle accelerator, one interesting study along these lines I would like to see involves kirlian photography, which provides a visualisation of the electromagnetic field surrounding a person. Is there a change in this field when there is a change in personality? How much and where? Something is changing when these different personalities swap.
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by PurpleSun
lol seems we're editing our post out of sync
remember what i said regarding fred flinstone shrinking/disassociating
imagine him shrinking* so small he falls out of the universe
in a manner analogous to the formation of a black hole
that would be a case extreme trauma
*disassociating can also be seen/experienced as pulling away while your body stays in place
in my case i would experience something akin to extreme tunnel vision, i wanted to get away [but couldn't] from the situation so bad
Originally posted by OnceReturned
reply to post by PurpleSun
Well, does Bell's theorem apply to consciousness? As far as science can tell, consciousness and the mind are properties of living brains. The mind is what the brain does, so you can't have "mind stuff" or "consciousness stuff" just flying around freely. The biological material of the brain associated with the alternate personality would have to physically integrate with your brain. It's hard to image how that would work.
Also, Bell's doesn't account for or even address communication between universes. In fact, stronger and more central theories in physics absolutely prohibit communication between universes. This issue will certainly be the greatest challenge to your theory. The cognitive and biological stuff has to be addressed and doesn't look promising, but the transfer of information between universes thing seems impossible in principal without overturning some of the most basic rules which have tremendous supporting evidence and enjoy acceptance by the entire community of professional physicists.
Where will you begin?
Originally posted by Overstuffed
I think this is a fairy interesting hypothesis and one worth persuing to make testable. I don't hold to the notion that there is no information transfer between the variety of universes as posited by the various multiple world hypothesis developed over the last few decades. Certainly the dissociative spectrum allows to using the brain's neurobiology in different ways than normal people, which would certainly be an avenue worth pursuing in researching the quantum mechanics alternate universe avenue.
Another Hypothesis I would like to put forward to you is taken from the notion of re-incarnation, this being an idea that some of the alters might be a personality that was developed in a previous life of your soul/spirit. Again, quantum mechanics might apply, certainly in a subjective temporal sense.
Originally posted by Darkblade71
The mind is like a hologram, and when you have MPD, it is because somehow your mind fragmented during the trauma usually. Each fragmented piece is a hologram within itself, so although he/she stays in your head, he/she is within his/her own world. So the question kind of is, where does the holographic mind reside?
Maybe I am just nuts though....
"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts… their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"