"God is an Imaginary Friend" Athiest Billboards in Denver-

The problem I think is, is that we are all a little bit right. For example, there is a god, but then at the same time there really isn't, at least the way I think about things. All living things have a conscious, this conscious appears to be attached to our physical bodies, until we die. Death could be described as the act of concsiousness leaving the body in all entirety. Dark matter, which holds our galaxy together, effectively the universe together, I presume to be a collective combination of all conscious. I then could presume, that much like our universe, this conscious used to be one, but is now broken up into many, beings, life forms, etc. Since I believe that consciousness existed before the universe was created, it is not tied to time and space, like our physical bodies are. Therefore we can ultimately access every dimension, whether it be past, present, or future, or some entirely different world, or universe, we all have access to it through our conscious. This could explain, physcics, miracles, prophecies etc. We also have incredible influence through it, our wants and desires, and everything else, constantly being projected out, and whether we are aware of it or not, we are picking up on it, which could explain the law of attraction. This conscious could be thougth of as intelligent, and since it created, or evolved itself into the universe, you could say that the universe was created by intelligent design, as well as call this consciousness "god". But in theory, this isn't a separate being, or entity, that lies outside of our existence, rather all of us combined, as one, all living things not just sentient, would create the single consciousness that some may know as a sort of god. In this way everybody is a little bit right. I tend to think that this intelligence, is not like what we may expect some intelligent mind to be, rather a lot different. I don't think this concsiousness set out to create this universe, rather I think it evolved itself into it, much like a simple organism evolves into a more complex one over time, due to adaptation, mutations, and other factors. I think this is what people tend to get caught up in, and in the end it all really seems quite pointless to me, to have these huge battles about whos right, when in reality, as it most often is, most of everybody in some way or another is a little bit right.

Originally posted by something wicked

Originally posted by PaxVeritas
Originally posted by something wicked

On your last paragraph, let me repeat the concept of faith which I think is troubling some on here "The actual point of faith is belief without proof - if you have proof you no longer need faith."

1) Easter Bunny
2) Santa Claus
3) Tooth Fairy

"Faith" is nice. Logic and fact get things done and give answers.

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Ok, yeah, well that's like your patron saint the R of P being the next president with actually no manifesto to give you anything, go ahead, drink the same kool aid, but kid yourself you are achieving something BUT WAIT, that's faith isn't it?

You're comparing my support of Ron Paul as a Presidential hopeful...... to your 'faith' in a Sky Fairy/Talking Burning Bush/Who Makes speaking snakes fool humans with apples and Fathers Zombies who walk on water and ascend into the clouds after cheating death?

Really?

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If its any consolation I think the Christian billboards are stupid crap too do you ever read past my first sentence?

Originally posted by Furbs
Just curious as to what ANY of the posts between this one and my last one have to do with the OP.

Can anyone tell me?

Mine does, in a round-about way. I am saying that if we get a clearer and more honest understanding of "what" God is, then we would not care what the billboards say, because the billboard, the words, the religions, the divisions, the concepts, whatever they say or do, whatever is going on, it really makes no difference to God, Reality, Truth, Life, Godhead, Isness, Ineffable All Inclusive Being, What Is, Totality of Being, Awareness,
I-That-I-Am, or Whatever else you want call this Living Presence, God's Being, Life and Its action called Awareness.

That is what my point was. Once you understand what is meant by what we call "God" then you can enjoy all the billboards or no billboards or whatever is going on or is not. Each of us will find a joy and freedom from the old 'religions' that promote such limited understanding---Then when we make the discovery of Reality (God) for our self, we are not fooled by false concepts, whatever they might be.

When we get out of the limited concepts of what God is, we come to a more Honest and Clear, and Correct understanding.

That little book I mentioned; 2+2=Reality is a great message that helps expand our mind to see God as Life Itself, right here and now. It was written in 1958! but you can see this is what the Quantum Scientist are discovering now a days about Life/Reality.

It's just purely remarkable when you start to wake up the this profound Truth of our Reality and it includes our very own Identity. When you get a little glimmer of this New View of Life, then Life becomes full of wonder and joy and peace and energy again.

A then you are not bothered by someone bill board no matter what it says. That was my point. and I think it fit the discussion.

Originally posted by MikeBoss
What a bunch of attention whores, if they want to be atheists then be it, don't waste money on some billboard attacking Christianity.

 

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So it's okay the Mormons attack and lobby to prevent equal rights for gay people, but somehow selfish and attention seeking to pay for a billboard for what you believe in?
How about the billions of $'s the Christians "donate" to their maniac preachers, only for them to live in luxury surrounded by coc aine and hookers?
What about the billions of $' the Pope and his cult hang on to?
What about the billions of £'s the Church of England has and refuses to help the poor?
What about all those "Christian" Republicans rolling around in their bloated sacks of cash while screaming about "liberals" handing out money to... people who are poor! AND calling it socialism while their precious capitalism never existed in the first place!

Why is it that the majority of Christians don't live by the beliefs that they insist everyone else should live by? They are perhaps the most hypocritical bunch of people.

I applaud the atheists for actually presenting an argument. I'm sick to death of seeing Christians preaching to the rest of the world, manipulating our leadership, attempting to censor, trying to control, wanting to brainwash kids... It's time there was some common sense and an argument against what is effectively one of the largest and most corrupt criminal cults on the planet.

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It's unfortunate you think I'm trolling, and I understand that it must be hard for you to understand that what I posted is my experience with Atheists, but it's the truth so you'll have to deal with it.

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If by thinking outside the box you mean a severe detachment from basic civility and decorum, then sure I totally get that. You're shining proof that you can't be moral with no religion.

Originally posted by PaxVeritas
Originally posted by something wicked

On your last paragraph, let me repeat the concept of faith which I think is troubling some on here "The actual point of faith is belief without proof - if you have proof you no longer need faith."

1) Easter Bunny
2) Santa Claus
3) Tooth Fairy

"Faith" is nice. Logic and fact get things done and give answers.

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Hmmm, on Above Top Secret, that's an intresting insight isn't it? Your opinion is your own, I just defined what faith means. If it doesn't work for you, then ignore it, is that so hard?

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by something wicked

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Mcupobob
Ehh they paid for the billboard so they can put up whatever stupid crap they want.

Why is it stupid?

The Christian Right continues to try to push their agenda on non-Christians and especially in government - - in every way possible - - including billboards.

I do not see anything stupid in Atheists making their presence known publicly to all of society.

Actually there is a difference, whether you think it's important or not. Many on ATS would say Atheists are not a group, they share nothing but a lack of belief in a divine creator. That is a little like saying I don't agree with a colour called peuce - sure disagree with my colour choice, but I struggle if that means it should attract a following.

I am an Atheist - - I know what Atheist means. It means lack of believe in a deity. That is all it means.

Atheist philosophy is something else. That is how each individual interprets and adjusts their life to being Atheist. Atheists are individuals - - there is no doctrine to follow. Your analysis has no basis.

I became Atheist after 60 years of searching for truth of god - - - resulting in lack of belief.

America is a secular government. God believers have a real problem with that - - and have had a stranglehold on this country for too many years. They are losing their power and they don't like it.

Actually, you know what being an Atheist means for you, you don't get a membership card, follow any set rules do you? No? Cool, you are following your own thoughts and good for you. If you have decided there is no God, well, good for you, I'm glad you've solved one of the eternal mysteries once and for all.

As for the "God believers have a real problem with that - - and have had a stranglehold on this country for too many years. They are losing their power and they don't like it.", Atheists seem to have a bee in their bonnet if they are putting billboards up, don't they? Atheism isn't a collective group, it's an individual expression so a little bit of a strange action.

ETA: I'm not making these points to express any personal religious belief or lack of, I just find the condescending manner of some people (not you in person Annee) who decide they are above others through their own personal opinions a little annoying when they try and take a moral high ground to criticise people for doing exactly what they are doing themselves.

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They are trying to help save you.

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It seems like it's something a religious person would do, because that's exactly what happened.

Atheism is a belief system also. Therefore anyone subscribed to it is in effect "religious" IMO

they don't like to hear that though...

Originally posted by HIWATT
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It seems like it's something a religious person would do, because that's exactly what happened.

Atheism is a belief system also. Therefore anyone subscribed to it is in effect "religious" IMO

they don't like to hear that though...

Atheism is not a belief system. It is lack of belief. Period! It is an adjective.

Each individual Atheist determines what they do or do not believe - - this is called Atheist philosophy.

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That's what I used to think, for a long time. That's childish religion. Keep searching for the truth, maybe the Almighty will reveal Himself to you one day. Search for truth and remain humble.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by HIWATT
reply to post by el1jah

 

It seems like it's something a religious person would do, because that's exactly what happened.

Atheism is a belief system also. Therefore anyone subscribed to it is in effect "religious" IMO

they don't like to hear that though...

Atheism is not a belief system. It is lack of belief. Period! It is an adjective.

Each individual Atheist determines what they do or do not believe - - this is called Atheist philosophy.

and that "collective philosophy and belief" are exactly what qualify it as a religion IMO

saying one "believes in different perspectives of nothing" is still a belief system.

like i said.. they don't like to hear it though...

Originally posted by HIWATT

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by HIWATT
reply to post by el1jah

 

It seems like it's something a religious person would do, because that's exactly what happened.

Atheism is a belief system also. Therefore anyone subscribed to it is in effect "religious" IMO

they don't like to hear that though...

Atheism is not a belief system. It is lack of belief. Period! It is an adjective.

Each individual Atheist determines what they do or do not believe - - this is called Atheist philosophy.

and that "collective philosophy and belief" are exactly what qualify it as a religion IMO

saying one "believes in different perspectives of nothing" is still a belief system.

like i said.. they don't like to hear it though...

Lack of belief - - is not a belief.

No matter how much you try to make it one.

Originally posted by Annee
Atheism is not a belief system. It is lack of belief.

So then you do not believe in atheism?

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by Annee
Atheism is not a belief system. It is lack of belief.

So then you do not believe in atheism?

I was a believer for 60 years. I know the difference.

I am not your brother.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by Annee
Atheism is not a belief system. It is lack of belief.

So then you do not believe in atheism?

I was a believer for 60 years. I know the difference.

I am not your brother.

60 years is a long time to believe something and then suddenly no longer believe it. I imagine such a change, if the belief was deep and sincere, would be a bit traumatic.

If your lack of belief has filled your life with joy and love, then God bless you and your non-belief.

However, if your lack of belief has lead you to a place that is even a portion of the coldness and bitterness that your posts reveal, may belief find you again, and deliver you to a sunnier side of life.

With Love,

Your Brother

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There are all kinds of Christians and atheism in this world, I never said all Christians are good people. I just don't like people wasting money and time attacking each other when there could be better things to do. If this was Christians attacking atheists, I will not hesitate to denounce them as well.


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Originally posted by IAMIAM
60 years is a long time to believe something and then suddenly no longer believe it. I imagine such a change, if the belief was deep and sincere, would be a bit traumatic.

You're wrong.

Originally posted by MikeBoss
There are all kinds of Christians and atheism in this world, I never said all Christians are good people. I just don't like people wasting money and time attacking each other when there could be better things to do. If this was Christians attacking atheists, I will not hesitate to denounce them as well.

Do you consider these billboards an attack?