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In the sacrifice of Jesus, God demanded that Jesus bear the sins of the wicked who will repent.
where Jesus demonstrates his blatant rebellion against the Law thought of by the contemporary authorities as coming directly from God, by refusing to condemn the woman caught in adultery
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by jmdewey60
where Jesus demonstrates his blatant rebellion against the Law thought of by the contemporary authorities as coming directly from God, by refusing to condemn the woman caught in adultery
Jesus may have spared the adulteress, but he seems to have made the law even more stricter...
When he said its adultery for just looking at women lustfully and that its murder just for hating.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Does the God you know follow the golden rule?
Originally posted by Akragon
There was a reason he said "depart from me"....
Originally posted by Deetermined
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
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Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Does the God you know follow the golden rule?
No my friend. The God I know follows his own rule.
He does unto all as they should be doing to each other.
Not a single soul does he deprive of his gifts. All are provided the warmth of the sun, stars and a moon to guide us at night, life, everything.
He gives to all in abundance in hopes that we will some day take notice, and dare to recognise his grace in us and thereby mimic his love.
With Love,
Your Brother
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Sodom. The great flood.
Take your God's love and shove it.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Sodom. The great flood.
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Does the God you know follow the golden rule?
No my friend. The God I know follows his own rule.
He does unto all as they should be doing to each other.
Not a single soul does he deprive of his gifts. All are provided the warmth of the sun, stars and a moon to guide us at night, life, everything.
He gives to all in abundance in hopes that we will some day take notice, and dare to recognise his grace in us and thereby mimic his love.
With Love,
Your Brother
Sodom. The great flood.
Take your God's love and shove it.
Regards
DL
In your OP, you said God demanded that Jesus bear the sins of those who would repent and I explained that when it said he bore the sins of the world, it meant he became numbered with the sinners. The doctors of the Law gave him a test to see if he followed the law when they presented to him a woman caught in adultery, where apparently, according to them, she was undoubtedly engaged in exactly that. At this point you may want to ask if Jesus was put into the position of God by these people, so here was his opportunity to judge the world in this person accused and he later says, 'Where are your accusers? Neither do I accuse you.' the idea being, without an accuser, people are not going to be getting punished, even if they deserve it anyway.
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by jmdewey60
Does God do unto others?
Regards
DL
Originally posted by jmdewey60
I guess your real question is: why Jesus had to go through all that anyway, and was God being evil to Jesus, and not doing unto Jesus as He would want to be done to?
I think the way to look at this situation is as Jesus here representing God on earth. Jesus is being baptized and there is a tear in the fabric of space and seen through that was God in heaven in glory saying, 'This is my son', where from that point on, you have to see him as a divinity. That being so, he makes himself a sinner and accordingly is put to death while God turns His back on him, as if he really was deserving of that fate, but then to be raised, once it is discovered that he was actually right. Being compassionate instead of vengeful is determined, after Jesus' death, to have been the right thing all along so he is recompensed by being given the inheritance which had been awaiting the right person to take it up, and is now king on the highest throne in the universe, over the entire world.
edit on 24-1-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
The jews must accept his work though.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
This is rendered irrelevant in the face of the apocalypse being a done deal and now Israel is expanded to include all who believe in God and do His will, which is to believe in His son.