reply to post by seabag
Originally posted by seabag
If I said that then I miss-spoke…I stand corrected!
Wait a minute. As I said in one of your threads, I do respect you even though we are on completely opposite sides of some issues. It takes strength
and integrity to come to a place like ATS, knowing full well it is a very Pro Paul type of site and not only say you disagree, but to clearly
articulate and show why it is that you believe as you do. You planted your feet, you took a stand and you have remained steadfast in defending your
position. Much like you have in this thread as well. These are admirable qualities and kudos to you for displaying this for us.
However, now it seems that you are being dishonest a bit with those 10 words I quoted above. There was no "misspeaking" in your position. I would
never beat up on a guy for admitting he was wrong, and yet instead of admitting you were wrong you are taking the high road, pulling a George Bush 2
and claiming that you misspoke? You have spent pages and pages and have even went so far as to link to laws that Santorum sponsored, supported and
signed in order to prove my statement wrong. Now that I have shown Santorum in his own words proving your claim to be wrong, it just seems like a huge
cop out to claim "I misspoke, but now stand corrected." I would ask respectfully Sir, that you show the same strength and integrity that you have
already show us in defending your position, and just simply admit you were wrong and not hide behind the "I misspoke" tag line.
It makes no sense to criminally charge a doctor who performs a LEGAL abortion. You cannot be charged for anything unless you've broken a law.
I don’t know what to tell you. You would hate Santorum regardless his view on abortion!
I actually agree with you here. It does make no sense to charge a doctor with a criminal act for performing a legal medical procedure. I have no way
to explain it, these are Santorum's words (who you have expressed support for), this is his idea. I would imagine the only way to enforce it would be
to over turn Roe vs Wade first. I also admit I would hate Santorum regardless of his policy on Abortion, but let me be very clear on this point.
Abortion in my opinion is a Non Issue.
I believe in personal responsibility. I believe that Government can not regulate behavior. As free people we have free will to make a choice about the
things we do in this life. As with any choice, there are consequences, and people should take responsibility for those choices and accept the
consequences. History has shown us that Government can not regulate behavior. Breaking into someone's home and stealing is illegal, the law says we
can not do it, but the law has not stopped criminals from doing it anyway. Abortion is no different. Even when Abortion was illegal in this country,
it did not stop people from having one if the choose to do so. It didnt work in the past, and it will not work now, because Government can not
legislate behavior. It is for this reason that I feel abortion is a non issue. Regardless of what the law says, people will still do what they want to
do anyway. Our debates in selecting the next President should actually be about Policy, not legislating behavior. Policy is what will get us out of
the mess we have created for ourselves by not being involved in the Political process.
Ron Paul is my guy, I have made no secret of it, and I do not agree with Ron Paul on abortion. I am pro choice, he is pro life. However I know that
Ron Paul would not try to create new Federal laws on Abortion. He would turn it over to the States and remove the Federal Government all together.
That is not a solution I have any fear of. If anything, what such an action would do is get more people involved in Politics on a local level,as it
was meant to be.
Yes, everyone has won a primary except who? That’s right…your boy! And he will be dead last AGAIN on Jan 31 in Florida.
Ron Paul has gotten two 3rd place finishes and one forth. He has approximately 10 delegates at this point, which happens to be 10 more than he had in
the 2008 Primary at this point. The fact that delegates are split up with the 3 different winners in previous contest, actually means that we will
not have a true stand out for the number of delegates needed to win the Nomination until Super Tuesday when a large majority of States hold their
Primaries. Florida is a winner take all State. Ron Paul is actually using Obama's campaign strategy in targeting delegates. Since you can not win
delegates in Florida for 2nd or 3rd place, considering how large the State is and how much money it cost to run a campaign, it makes sense to skip
Florida and focus on delegates in States that are not a winner take all State.
**continued in next post but I am almost finished**