posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 08:46 PM
reply to post by denynothing
No America was not dragged in kicking and screaming, our allies wanted us in the war. The government wanted in the war. Heck the people of
America wanted in the war too. It is a historically accepted fact that America poked the bear and got attacked. Your right America would not have
entered the war without the bombing, there would have been no true justification. However America blockaded Japan and didn't allow oil shipments and
rubber shipments. Japan had no other choice than to attack Americans. American oil embargo causes Japan to attack;. It really isn't hard to understand
that, the Japanese asked first to sit down and talk about the situation. The Japanese feared us the entire time, why would they attack us without
prior provocation. The only reason why they didn't surrender earlier in the war was due to "bushido." That however is a debate for a different day.
History will tell you even when America is in its isolation stage, it really isn't. The Tampico incident in Mexico, the U.S.S. Dolphin incident in
Roosevelt may have secretly wanted it, but the American people didn’t. Regardless, US didn’t enter the war until late in the game because
isolationism was the attitude of the country.
America likes to poke the bear and then practice massive retaliation when they get attacked. I'll admit that the Japanese weren't the best
belligerents and did terrible things to the Chinese. However they were scared to attack us but had to because we wouldn't end the blockade.
So following your logic, Iran is “poking the bear.” I think Iraq and Afghanistan poked the bear (UN Security Council breeches by Saddam and
9/11-Bin Laden by Afghanistan). So the US was/is justified in taking action, right, based on your logic?
On the side of Iran, The Ayatollah hasn't acted upon his speeches has he? A speech from 2006 and yet no invasion of Israel, or any other
country for that matter. If he wanted to he could get biological or gaseous weapons to use in war. They don't possess those to my knowledge, or have
made any real gains to attain those even after his speech.
They have made enough progress to warrant attention…have they not? Naval advances in submarine technology with threats to patrol the US coastline,
uranium enrichment progress (for weapons), missile progress (for aggression), poking around in south America (to launch terrorist attacks against US),
fighting proxy wars against US in Iraq and Afghanistan, proxy wars against our ally Israel, bombing our embassy in Beirut, kidnapping Americans,
killing journalists and other civilians, etc, etc…
You just don’t want to see what’s going on. You likely WANT to see American casualties.
Our Allies don't need our money, I'm sorry but they don't require our foreign aid at the moment. Why does Germany require the foreign aid? Why
does Japan require the foreign aid? Military foreign aid is pointless thing because the countries we give the money to don't require it. What has our
foreign military aid got us, well the major rise of Al Quadea in Afghanistan. The rise of Iraq into a dictatorship that invaded Kuwait and Iran. By
giving money to Iraq it drew into wars against Iraq later on. Foreign military doesn't work.
In conclusion, preemptive attacks don't work.
I didn’t advocate foreign aid. Bases overseas do not equal foreign aid, bud.
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