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What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
Originally posted by mileslong54
What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
It's because they want you to know their knowledge, their history, not true knowledge or true history. That's how they keep power and raise money, their Gospel. They don't want to hear anything different. Anything different threatens their power, money, and their Gospel.edit on 20-1-2012 by mileslong54 because: (no reason given)
Just how stupid does the Church want their adherents? Do they want slaves the same way their God does?
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just how stupid does the Church want their adherents? Do they want slaves the same way their God does?
I believe sheep would be the best way to discribe it...
Originally posted by Greatest I am
What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
In the early years, the Catholics hierarchy was against the reading of scriptures.
It took Martin Luther ...
Eden shows that God did not want Adam and Eve to have knowledge of good and evil.
What do the churches fear with a more intelligent population? Are they afraid that with knowledge, people will stop believing in talking animals and other fantasies, miracles and magic and realize that their faith has no clothes?
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Being a Gnostic Christian, I of course ignore such commands....How much B S are you willing to eat from your Church hierarchy to maintain the delusion that you believe in an invisible miracle working absentee super God?
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just how stupid does the Church want their adherents? Do they want slaves the same way their God does?
I believe sheep would be the best way to discribe it...
Better sheep than goat. I'm learning how to say Baaaaaah, you should too. Skip to the end of Revelation to see what happens to the goats.
Originally posted by mileslong54
What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
It's because they want you to know their knowledge, their history, not true knowledge or true history. That's how they keep power and raise money, their Gospel. They don't want to hear anything different. Anything different threatens their power, money, and their Gospel.edit on 20-1-2012 by mileslong54 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AzureSky
I didnt read all of the post, but i will.
And i feel the same way.
You would be interested in reading about Gonsticism, which was a religion based on aqcuiring knowledge.
Thats where i'm reading right now too. Modern day religion was pursued the way it was for control of the people.
The church has destroyed historical artifacts when the church controlled science
Knowledge is the only way to salvation.
Without it we're doomed,
Originally posted by mackey1224uk
Originally posted by mileslong54
What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
It's because they want you to know their knowledge, their history, not true knowledge or true history. That's how they keep power and raise money, their Gospel. They don't want to hear anything different. Anything different threatens their power, money, and their Gospel.edit on 20-1-2012 by mileslong54 because: (no reason given)
Same as all religion then = Slavery.
Wrong. The Catholic church was against people reading 'scripture' that was not accepted by the church. That's totally different than saying the Catholic church was against 'the reading of scriptures'. Oh .. btw ... not many people could read back in the day either ..
The council of Trent in 1565 stated All the faithful Catholics must agree I shall never accept or interpret scripture otherwise in accordance with the unanimous concept of the fathers. “ the office of interpreting scripture is totally entrusted to the teaching Majesterium of the church. There are only 8 passages Rome claims they can interpret that no one else can.
In a similar manner the Pharisee’s claimed they alone had the right to interpret and enforce scripture, and that is when everything went wrong. Trouble followed when the right to read and study were in the hands of the few, instead of the many. When Jesus rebuked the Pharisee’s it wasn’t because they didn’t understand tradition, but because they didn’t understand the word of God.
www.letusreason.org...
For centuries it was a mortal sin to possess and read the Bible in one’s own native tongue. But the Bible read was the Latin Vulgate which virtually no one but trained priests could understand! Pope Innocent the 3rd 1200 A.D. Forbade Bible reading in the common language so people had to learn Latin before they could even pick up the book. The council of Valencia (1229), the Council of Trent (1545) and Pope Clement XI (1713) Issued a papal bull to forbid letting people have the Bible in their own language and reading it for themselves. Likewise Clement the 11th 1720 issued a Papal Bull against Bible reading. Leo the 12th 1821-1829 Condemned all religious freedom, Bible societies, and Bible translations.
Even the Catholic dictionary records this fact “In early times the Bible was read freely by the lay people...New dangers came in during the Middle Ages...To meet those evils, the Council of Toulouse (1229) and Terragona (1234) forbade the laity to read the vernacular translations of the Bible. Pius IV required bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read even Catholic versions of Scripture unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such reading was likely to prove beneficial.” (Catholic Dictionary, p. 82).
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just how stupid does the Church want their adherents? Do they want slaves the same way their God does?
I believe sheep would be the best way to discribe it...
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just how stupid does the Church want their adherents? Do they want slaves the same way their God does?
I believe sheep would be the best way to discribe it...
Better sheep than goat. I'm learning how to say Baaaaaah, you should too. Skip to the end of Revelation to see what happens to the goats.
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Because it suggests a Creator and they cannot accept this. Why does religion have trouble with science? They don't. They have a problem with the man in the relationship refusing to admit he is wrong.
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Greatest I am
What’s with Protestants and Catholics and their hate of knowledge?
By your logic, I could easily say all Gnostic Christians are morons because they accept books that are obviously totally fiction.
In the early years, the Catholics hierarchy was against the reading of scriptures.
Wrong. The Catholic church was against people reading 'scripture' that was not accepted by the church. That's totally different than saying the Catholic church was against 'the reading of scriptures'. Oh .. btw ... not many people could read back in the day either ..
It took Martin Luther ...
No he didn't do it for the money, he did it for the sex. The guy was a complete perv.
"if the wife is unwilling then take the maid" ... Martin Luther quote.
Eden shows that God did not want Adam and Eve to have knowledge of good and evil.
.... and there we have it. What's with Gnostic Christians and their hate of knowledge??
There was no such thing as Adam and Eve. It's one of many creation myths that abound in the world.
Science has proven the world isn't 6,000 years old, which is how old it would have to be for the
Genesis accounts (pick one .. there are two) to be true.
What do the churches fear with a more intelligent population? Are they afraid that with knowledge, people will stop believing in talking animals and other fantasies, miracles and magic and realize that their faith has no clothes?
Get back to us when you no longer believe in the gnostic 'scriptures' ... no longer believe that an Adam and Eve really existed .. no longer believe in the Noahs Ark fable which was stolen from the Summerian legends ... THEN you can throw stones at others who believe in fantasies and miracles. The gnostic 'scriptures' are full of bunk ... it's a 'faith that has no clothes' to quote back at you.edit on 1/20/2012 by FlyersFan because: fixed word
Originally posted by HeFrippedMeOff
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Being a Gnostic Christian, I of course ignore such commands....How much B S are you willing to eat from your Church hierarchy to maintain the delusion that you believe in an invisible miracle working absentee super God?
While I'm not defending Catholicism or Protestantism, aren't you placing yourself in the same category as them when you write of their delusional belief in an invisible absentee? Doesn't Gnosticism ascribe to the belief that God is unknowable and too pure to have anything to do with the material universe and doesn't Gnosticism also deny the incarnation of God as the Son?
What good is knowledge of the world without the truth of God?