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reply posted on 27-9-2004 @ 11:57 AM by Stealth Spy
Originally posted by roniii259

Originally posted by Stealth Spy
The F-15 too was an improved copy of the mig-25 foxbat.

I would like to see the link to an article provinng that, because its false! They are completely different aircraft. The F-15 goes slower and is more manueverable while the Foxbat is simply a point blank interceptor that was designed to shoot down the xb-70 and hardly has any manueverability.



Here you go :
www.hostultra.com...

"In 1976, the Hakodate airfield in Japan was graced with the Foxbat A's presence when Soviet Air Force Lieutenant Viktor Belenko chose the location for which to defect. After his Foxbat craft was dissected, remantled, and returned to the then-U.S.S.R., manufacturers worldwide gained massive amounts of data in order to remake the plane. Over the years, the MiG-25 has been involved with air combat missions all over the world, used by Algeria and Iraq as Interceptor craft. India also uses them in a reconnaissance function, and they and Libya use them as trainer planes. Syria has lost Foxbats to Israel's Eagles during war in the Bekaa valley, and its originators, Russia, have adapted the plane for every significant military role possible. ................After two MiG-25 craft were sighted and chased by Israel's Air Force F-4 Phantom II jets without contact, reports prompted manufacturers to complete the F-15 Eagle Mach 2+ speed aircraft from data gained from the Mig-25 in order to compete in the "cold war".......... As an example for the United States' F-15 Eagle aircraft, the MiG-25 Foxbat prototype was produced in the late 1950s, and entered the public eye creating and being redesigned amid a storm of controversy. "


reply posted on 27-9-2004 @ 12:12 PM by Stealth Spy


Le F-15 avait, en quelque sorte, été conçu en réponse à la présentation du MiG-25 et il est donc normal que leur structure soir similaire, bien que l'apparence de l'avion soviétique soit plus rustique. En dehors du fait que le MiG-25 soit peu à peu retiré de service (on peut le croiser dans des pays de l'ancien bloc de l'Est et au Proche Orient), toute confusion est impossible grâce à certains éléments très nettement visibles :

Points d'emports de missiles en bouts d'ailes (1)
Larges dérives inclinées vers l'extérieur et sans pods électroniques au sommet (2)
Cockpit sans visibilité vers l'arrière (3)
Entrées d'air dépourvues de géometrie variable

(I hope you can understand this french part. It is from faq.bigip.mine.nu:8008...)



I dont really mean that the F-15 was copied.
Later versions incorporated LOTS of stuff from the disected Mig-25.

I am not saying the F-15 was designed from scratch using the Mig.

[edit on 27-9-2004 by Stealth Spy]

[edit on 27-9-2004 by Stealth Spy]


reply posted on 28-9-2004 @ 04:33 PM by Lampyridae
By far the most interesting U.S. plane never flown has to be the Davis Manta Wing. The idea for it was scrapped in the 40s, with some great controversy.

home.wanadoo.nl...


1940 = 1pCmwM rg flying-wing design project for a military fighter with 1200hp unspecified motor. David R Davis. Thick-root, manta ray-shaped wing with a slim conventional fuselage and tail group, apparently never made it into production.
1941 Air International reports: 1150hp Allison V-1710-E; span 50'0". W [William?] Waterhouse. A full-size mock-up constructed, but the design was abandoned [reasons unstated]. (— Tore Eriksson 2/23/00)

Feb 1942 Aviation adds: Allison mounted amidships [as in P-39], four-blade contrarotating prop, high-taper Davis wing with modified tips to prevent tip stall. Scheduled armament: 4 cannon and 4 mgs; estimated v: 425 and range: 3,500. (— Larry McClellan 12/5/03)


www.aerofiles.com...

Very little info on this project exists, however.

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