Originally posted by veubiah
It has to be pointed out that the Big Bang is creationist theory. Hannes Alfvén is quoted as saying
(at this page)
I was there when Abbe Georges Lemaître first proposed this [Big Bang] theory. ... There is no rational reason to doubt that the universe has existed
indefinitely, for an infinite time. .... It is only myth that attempts to say how the universe came to be, either four thousand or twenty billion
[Expressing his belief that the Big Bang is a myth devised to explain creation. He said he heard Lemaître (who was, at the time both a member of the
Catholic hierarchy and an accomplished scientist) say in private that this theory was a way to reconcile science with St. Thomas Aquinas' theological
dictum of creatio ex nihilo—creation out of nothing.]
Well, ..., no that is not the case. The Universe has not always existed. Even the initial singularity (that began our universe) did not always exist.
Consider any event that happens is our universe. No event in our universe just happens. Rather every event has a cause. Every cause has an effect, and
each effect may itself may become a cause or multiple causes in a causal event chain. Such that, if the if the universe is at size (x) it will be of
size (x+1) in a few moments, and a few moments later size (x+2) and so on. Conversely, one can walk the causal chain backwards such that we see the
universe at size (x-1), and size (x-2) all the way back to ... size(1) a singularity. Step back once more and you come to 'i' an undefined point
before anything including the singularity existed.
Some people erroneously maintain that the universe has existed forever. Most of these people faded away when Hoyle's Steady State model was
discredited, however, despite advances in scientific observations there are few today who cling to that failed supposition. Yet, we know from our
observations that the universe is finite in mass and energy, as well as, a finite age. Since it had a definite beginning (and will have a definite
end) then there was a point where it did not exist.
Now here's the rub ...
Logic dictates that someone or something had to have "caused", "created", or "made" the initial singularity that caused all things to come into
being. At the point before the singularity existed we enter a realm where there is no chain of cause and effect (at least as this universe knows it).
The universe does not exist yet someone or something does exist that is capable of creating the initial singularity but has not yet done so. Whatever
that initial agent is, it exists outside of chain of cause and effect, outside of this universe. In other words nothing caused it to come into being.
It is eternal, unending, and not in need of a casual event (as we are) to justify it's existence. Essentially, this entity is the "Uncaused
The question now becomes, is this "Uncaused Cause", progenitor of the singularity, conscious or unconscious? Does it have personality or was it
impersonal? If it is unconscious and impersonal then you have to ask yourself how consciousness and personality could arise from the mechanical,
unconscious, and impersonal. In fact it could not as that would be a violation of entropy and that is an impossibility. However, if it does have
consciousness and personality then both the impersonal and personal, conscious and unconscious can arise from it. Thus, the "Uncaused Cause" must
have personality and consciousness and ergo we arrive at God.
Only those things that had a beginning had a cause. Since God does not have a beginning, He did not need a cause. He then is the only one who can be
the ultimate beginner – that first uncaused cause. This uncaused cause of all things is who we call God. This makes God and only God necessary since
He was needed to begin it all. The universe and everything in it is not necessary outside of serving God’s purpose, plan, and causal objective.