Is God a being distinct from the universe, or is He, according to the opinion of some, the result of all the forces and intelligences of the universe?
If the latter were the case, God would not be God, for He would be effect and not cause; He cannot be both cause and effect. God exists. You cannot
doubt His existence, and that is one essential point. Do not seek to go beyond it; do not lose yourselves in a labyrinth which, for you, is without an
issue.
I'm confused. You start out by asking a question that cannot be answered, you answer it with a speculative "if" statement and then immediately follow
it up with, "but you cannot doubt his existence". IF that statement were true then god would certainly not be a "He" with a capital H as referenced in
the bible or other scriptures, nor would he be a creator. We are discussing creation and intelligent design, and their lack of objective evidence.
Dawkins is happy because religion can't be mandated in science class, and he's right. People didn't respond to your post originally because it was
off topic.
Such inquiries would not make you better; they would rather tend to add to your pride, by causing you to imagine that you knew something,
while, in reality, you would know nothing. Put aside systems.
So basically, you are saying we should ignore everything and not try to learn anything about the universe we live in? Striving for more knowledge is
only about pride? Interesting standards you have, especially considering that the knowledge of modern medicine saves countless lives every week when
applied and it's based on nothing but pride apparently. Science works. Knowledge is beneficial to our survival as a species. Ask questions,
always.
You have things enough to think about that concern you much more nearly, beginning with yourselves. Study your own imperfections, that you may
get rid of them; this will be far more useful to you than the vain attempt to penetrate the impenetrable.
I see what you're saying, but I don't see science as an attempt to penetrate the impenetrable. Asking questions is a great way to better yourself as a
human being, and gain knowledge. Does it really matter in your life right now that pluto is -300 degrees Fahrenheit and takes almost 250 years to
orbit the sun? Probably not, however studying such things could one day advance our species to the point where we can prevent or avoid a cataclysm or
extinction level event. Seeking knowledge and understanding is a good thing, and certainly isn't running through labyrinths if you understand the
methods in which science finds its conclusions.
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