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Originally posted by newyorkee
I am in the mood to talk about something absolutely taboo in my country.....USA.....the subject of anti- Americanism.....the whole if you don't like it leave mentality....the whole either your with me or against me thing....
I have had more than my fair share in this life...I don't know why I always attract those people.....they seem to just pick up on the fact I will argue against 911 common thought.....I will never defend the USA in subjects of Vietnam....Guantanamo......Abu grade...etc.....I steer clear of them since I am sincerely tired of it all....but that doesn't mean I will submit to the mass Nationalism in its extreme form in the US as of late...
Am I anti anything if I truly just believe what I do independently from what political point of view I have about the US....like if I am anti war....does that make me anti American because I might not side with pro war people...does that automatically mean I am anti military.....why ?¿?¿?¿?
Originally posted by Adyta
The minute they reveal they're a Liberal...
Really, can get get any more anti-American than that?
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
I consider someone Anti-American when they don't stand up for their own country and their own freedoms in the CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS. When they try everything in the book to justify some fringe terrorist group or organization's actions even though if the tables were turned it would be considered a horrendous act of treason anywhere else. This has happened to me in debates about certain groups like Al Qaeda, Muslim Extremists, OWS and ACORN. NOTE I am not saying OWS and ACORN are terrorists but some of their actions in the past have been very questionable to try to get their message across.
Some people are really lucky to be born here in America, otherwise they would never get the chance to be sympathetic towards the enemy of your own country.edit on 3-1-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)edit on 3-1-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
My view stands as this; if your actions would do more harm to the majority of Americans than good, your actions can/should be construed as "against America."
Being anti-war doesn't make you anti-American, especially since most wars are anti-American themselves. Being anti-government isn't being anti-American, not when the government has been stripping away and selling off America and her freedoms for so long.
We go to war for mineral or monetary purposes that strengthen the few, while tax payers lose everything. Those waging these wars are anti-American as they do nothing with this stolen wealth that benefits the country. We use legislation to remove people's freedoms because there's a "threat" out there that we created, and we have to be "protected" from this Frankenstein's Monster that is terrorism.
Are you anti-American? No. Am I? No. Are the people that run this country, and the people that run them? Absolutely. How do we fix it? Well that is the $2012 question, isn't it?