Are the stories of 911 "jumpers" true?

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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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One of the ways propagandists control you is through the use of fear.

Most people are terrified of fire, and when you consider the biblical "hell" is a lake of unending fire, you could say most folks are hard-wired to be scared senseless by it.

For the 911 psyop to succeed, the American people needed to be traumatized, and any good propagandist knows one of the best buttons to push is fear, with the lowest hanging fruit being the fear of fire.

I think I probably went through the same horror most folks would when I was exposed to the "jumpers" story. I treated the jumping folks with a kind of reverence, an automatic belief that people chose to jump out the window rather than face the raging infernos. It never crossed my mind the stories might be false. What monster would ever consider to fabricate a story like that?

Well, to properly investigate 911, one needs to also investigate the claims of the "jumpers".

One of the things 911 taught me was the media are not to be trusted. For the last 10 years we've seen how the alternative and mainstream media have been exposed as the propaganda arms of the military. Anyone knowing the history of the media knows they are created and owned by powerful interests, and always have been.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

After 10 years of studying 911 I have come to the conclusion most if not all the stories that dredge up the sort of visceral, biblical horror that stops all reason, are there for just that...to scare us. For the event to have occurred is inconsequential if the general public aren't horrified by it, and the general public won't know about anything unless the media tell them. For the jumper story to have actually occurred wasn't necessary for the public to be horrified by it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Do the stories of people jumping through 22 inch windows holding hands while on fire ring true, or do they sound like a cheesy propagandist tug on your fight or flight instinct?

Here's a video from a google search. What do you think?



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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Good find. I always wondered why people would jump when they saw a fire. If your in a burning building. Do you just assume the building is going to collapse? No you try to find a way around and if u cant you, you pray the fire department is close. Ese people didnt know the building was going to collapse and they didnt know the whole building was "on fire" so there is no reason for them to jump. If i was i a burning building 50 stories up, i would either try to run through weak spots in the fire or wait for help. Jumping out the window means one solution lol.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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This is a tough one because as you said it is a pyschologically horrible thing, but just because something is scary doesn't mean it is true, and if the whole thing was fake or contrived how could we rule this out. It's also strange how the media won't show really horrible things yet they showed this. We were told we couldnt see bin ladens body but americans jumping out of buildings is fair game? Strange the kind of sympathy the media embarks on. Also I heard that some of the families of the jumpers did not want to claim the bodies because it was a suicide, but if it was a suicide it's understandable, plus not claiming the body may be more sick than having no other choice but to jump. My guess is this was probably faked in some way but I can't definitively prove it one way or another.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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when you enlarge any picture too much it gets pixelated, its normal and this lady doesn't know what she is talking about. there is actually an entire documentary on just that one guy that jumped, the first one she showed. i'm pretty sure if i was on the 100th floor of a building with no way of getting out other than burning alive...jumping would start to sound really good.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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I do really think 9/11 was an inside job and a successful psyop. that being said people jumping out of burning buildings isn't a new phenomenon and those fires were very hot. One example I can remember is the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire in the 20s those poor women jumped to their deaths to escape the flames and the 9/11 victims did too.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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I believe the jumpers are real. Far to many witness , and video/pics.


Watch this documentary you can hear the thump of humans falling to their deaths.


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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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You can do some searches on line for images of the stains, there was a thread started around June or July I think that showed many of the jumpers, how most are still unclaimed etc... I did my own searching and there are still a few VERY graphic photos of the jumpers out there.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by CharonIncarnate
Good find. I always wondered why people would jump when they saw a fire. If your in a burning building. Do you just assume the building is going to collapse? No you try to find a way around and if u cant you, you pray the fire department is close. Ese people didnt know the building was going to collapse and they didnt know the whole building was "on fire" so there is no reason for them to jump. If i was i a burning building 50 stories up, i would either try to run through weak spots in the fire or wait for help. Jumping out the window means one solution lol.


Listen if I'm facing my skin melting off and my lungs collapsing from smoke inhalation, I'm likely to take the "easy" way out and jump.

And if a lot of you "brave behind the computer" are honest with yourselves you'll realize that when facing the certainty of death, you just may choose fast over slow and horrific
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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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You are right about he fear factor being important to the propagandist. But yes many peoplr dir indeed jump, and I have seen some of the after photos with body parts being all over the place and some which have obviously just exploded on impact with the concrete.

That said it could be that some of those body parts wrre dues to bombs around the basement area. One of the first responders even found a body hidden in a closet, go figure.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by septic
One of the ways propagandists control you is through the use of fear.


...and one of the ways that those damned fool conspiracy web sites control you is by introducing such mind numbingly idiotic foolishness like "the jumpers are all faked" paranoia, which is so asinine that it doesn't warrant discussion. It gets the gullible kool-aid drinkers who think they're being so worldly and sophisticated by reading the nonsense on these fringe web sites all riled up and believing the gov't is constantly plotting to murder us all. Of course, the best way to combat these "evil secret plots" is to buy their books, T-shirts, and in one case I've seen, license plate frames.

So how much money have you spent on this conspiracy foolishness so far? You almost certainly had to have purchased at least one book or T-shirt, or paid to attend at least one conference, for you to be pushing something this outrageous.

FYI in the real world, THIS is what happened to the jumpers. I'll bet Prison Planet never told you about THIS, did the?

*snip*

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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Dr. Judy Wood allocates a whole chapter to "The Jumpers" in her book "Where Did The Towers Go".

I suggest you read it, and more to the point, everyone should read her book, it has all the answers to the 9/11 event.

Just one more thing, some of the jumpers were jumping from sections of the building that were NOT on fire.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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I get your guys' take on the whole "Why would you jump from a burning building" question. And let me just say that, if your not in their position,how can you judge? I personally have a close friend, who, had to resort to jumping out of his apartment window during a fire. He jumped 3 stories and broke both legs ankles and hips.
He had no choice, and says that he honestly didn't think he was going to live if he jumped, but had no choice, everything else was either on fire, or the smoke was to thick to even consider trying to get through. Plus, he didnt know if the lower half of the building was on fire or not and didnt want to risk getting caught in the lower levels with no exit.

So, you see, it may not make sense, as you sit on your computer and watch videos, but, in the heat of the moment (pun intended) you have to make decisions, for the better or not. Most people aren't just going to stand there and go "Oh, well!"



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Hawking

Originally posted by CharonIncarnate
Good find. I always wondered why people would jump when they saw a fire. If your in a burning building. Do you just assume the building is going to collapse? No you try to find a way around and if u cant you, you pray the fire department is close. Ese people didnt know the building was going to collapse and they didnt know the whole building was "on fire" so there is no reason for them to jump. If i was i a burning building 50 stories up, i would either try to run through weak spots in the fire or wait for help. Jumping out the window means one solution lol.


Listen if I'm facing my skin melting off and my lungs collapsing from smoke inhalation, I'm likely to take the "easy" way out and jump.


It's amazing what you'd do to get away from pain.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by septic
What monster would ever consider to fabricate a story like that?


Probably the same type of mind that would fabricate a conspiracy based off the jumpers... err I mean "jumpers"

I was one of many glued to the television that day. And when you watch on live TV, a person stuck with a choice of burning alive, or plummeting to their death... you don't forget the details.

Jumping through 22 inch glass? Really? There was plenty of damage that broke through to the exterior of the building, not to mention people breaking windows for air. Of course no one is able to jump through 22 inch glass, so kudos on making up an argument to substantiate this garbage, but it doesn't work.

You know, I for one believe that there are many things wrong with the official 911 story. I believe there were those in American government and/or it's shadow government that are involved in a massive coverup... really I do... but this? This is disgusting.


Oh, and that lady in the video has no idea what she's talking about, someone should throw her dumb [snip] from a burning building.

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posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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and then there is you...who believes the 9/11 fable(according to your signature). interesting, do you ever think for yourself or just personally attack people? yes this thread is quite off but wow...believing the 'real' 911 story...very gullible.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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I was there and personally saw at least a dozen people jump out and hit the ground. Was terrible to see, but it sure happened. I also witnessed several explosions from the bottom floor of both buildings. There were also many blasts that went off a few floors below the towers as they fell as if perfectly timed. When we were blocks away from the wreckage you could hear people screaming about being burned and fire men were all talking about losing their men to explosions on the first floor. I am fully aware of the possibility of "terrorists" being behind all of it, however I believe it was an inside job.

Back to the jumpers... Like I said I personally saw 8-12 jump out and hit the ground as people around me prayed and cried.

Hope this helps.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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I believe that the stories of approximately 200 people jumping to their deaths is true. When 9/11 happened...I was at home...and I remember seeing footage of those people jumping....and there was a lot of them. My question is where is that footage now?



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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The blocky pixelation is Jpeg artefacts...

www.topazlabs.com...



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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Guess i would not give up as easy as you. S far as you know its just your floor on fire and the firemen are on the way up. But people are different. Fight or flight. I guess you would choose flight haha





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