Are the stories of 911 "jumpers" true?, page 3
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reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 03:05 PM by yourboycal2
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How about these guys?

scientistsfor911truth.org...


Secondly a real scientist would not be afraid of their conclusions from the "evidence" no?



Why play hop skip ?


reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 03:31 PM by freedom12
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LOL.....Other simple reasons why this "guy" isn't a jumper are 1) body has been dragged 2) no where near enough blood 3) see the snow flurries on the pavement and the person who lifted the plastic sheet off the body has cotton gloves onm both of which imply this picture is NOT from a warm Sept. morning.
4) along the same lines, the "jumper" has a heavy coat on,


I might be able to find the info on this picture if I really cared, but I do remember it was thoroughly debunked on another forum , complete with the source for the picture. Nice try though Dave!


reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 03:48 PM by pshea38
www.cluesforum.info...
None of it is real.


Here is one of my favourites; inside out man.
www.cluesforum.info...

It is all faked BS!


reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 03:51 PM by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by Myendica
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do you know how to say anything decently? How do you survive in society when you insult and degrade anyone and everyone within every half sentence you speak? I agree that to discount that people jumped that day is a little bit of a stretch, but you can have an arguement in a civil way right? Not good ol dave. He cant open his mouth, and in this case, type on his cheese doodled and man juice stained covered keyboard without making a donkey of himself. Everyone is a damned fool conspiricy theorist to him. Well dave, your on a conspiricy site for 100 trillienth time! Get over yourself.


"Man juice stained covered keyboard"?!? DAMN, there's gotta be a whole encyclopedia of Freudean issues behind that quip, but that's neither here nor there.

The point is, the con artists behind those damned fool conspiracy web sites are churning out a nonstop production line of inane conspiracy claims to make a quick buck. The moon landing was faked, the SAS assassinated Princess Diana, the CIA invented AIDS to kill all the black people in Africa, and now, the jumpers from the WTC were faked. This really isn't anything new, though, as snake oil peddlers have been pushing phony goods to make a buck off of gullible people for centuries, but what's different today is that unlike the people buying snake oil who'd have no possible way to verify they're being suckered, people of today can easily discover they're being lied to with a simple 30 second Google search. That's all it took for me to find the photo of the jumper I posted.

We're also seeing something else new from the people of today...people who WANT to believe these conspiracy stories are real. People didn't see the footage of people jumping out of the buildings and instictively believe "they're being faked by the gov;t". They believe that because a) they read it on some damned fool conspiracy web site, and b) they WANT to believe in these sinister secret plots to take over the world. Evolution spent millenia to develop common sesne and critical analysis in the human species, so if my frustration from these people willingly throwing it away for the sake of pursuing abject paranoia is leaking into my posts, then that's my own human failing.


reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 04:02 PM by Gorman91
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I saw many. It's all a matter of perspective.

When someone says to something witnessed by over a hundred thousand people that it was fake, I question that person's mental state. It's just on principals. Nothing personal.



reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 04:09 PM by septic
Originally posted by yourboycal2
I believe the jumpers are real. Far to many witness , and video/pics.


Watch this documentary you can hear the thump of humans falling to their deaths.


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The story is there were far too many witnesses. I believe this is an assumption that has yet to be proved. I have heard some folks claim "millions" of witnesses, but most settle around "thousands". For that many witnesses there would be hundreds of photos...even just from the professional photographers on duty at the time there would be hundreds.

Photographic evidence is lacking, and if we're reduced to taking the word of the FDNY, the NYPD or the government, we're trusting the most likely suspects.


reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 04:10 PM by flexy123
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by septic
One of the ways propagandists control you is through the use of fear.


...and one of the ways that those damned fool conspiracy web sites control you is by introducing such mind numbingly idiotic foolishness like "the jumpers are all faked" paranoia, which is so asinine that it doesn't warrant discussion. It gets the gullible kool-aid drinkers who think they're being so worldly and sophisticated by reading the nonsense on these fringe web sites all riled up and believing the gov't is constantly plotting to murder us all. Of course, the best way to combat these "evil secret plots" is to buy their books, T-shirts, and in one case I've seen, license plate frames.

So how much money have you spent on this conspiracy foolishness so far? You almost certainly had to have purchased at least one book or T-shirt, or paid to attend at least one conference, for you to be pushing something this outrageous.

FYI in the real world, THIS is what happened to the jumpers. I'll bet Prison Planet never told you about THIS, did the?

WARNING- EXPLICIT IMAGE. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

edit on 26-12-2011 by GoodOlDave because: (no reason given)



VERY GRAPHIC, do not click if you dont want to see blood/guts.

Anyway, THIS picture is not from a WTC jumper, it's another jumper who reportedly jumped from a 10 story building. A WTC jumper would not look "that good" anymore...excuse my comment...there would be nothing even remotely on the same place anymore.


reply posted on 26-12-2011 @ 04:17 PM by freedom12
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by freedom12
This is a KNOWN fake of a Russian man who was hit by a truck!

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Known by whom? And what truck is able to hit a man with such force that his clothes get turned inside out and his intestines get squeezed out his butt?

If you don't want to believe the photo is real...and it really comes as no surprise that you wouldn't, seeing that half of you don't even think the video of the planes hitting the towers is real...that's your perogative, but where the heck is it written that you have to believe stupid crap like "the jumpers were faked" like a North Korean faithfully swallowing Kim Jong Il propaganda?


Easy there Dave.....I'll repost my further reply that you failed to address. BTW, I never said there were no jumpers. I said the picture you posted is NOT a 9/11 jumper. here's my repost you failed to address-

"LOL.....Other simple reasons why this "guy" isn't a jumper are 1) body has been dragged 2) no where near enough blood 3) see the snow flurries on the pavement and the person who lifted the plastic sheet off the body has cotton gloves onm both of which imply this picture is NOT from a warm Sept. morning.
4) along the same lines, the "jumper" has a heavy coat on,


I might be able to find the info on this picture if I really cared, but I do remember it was thoroughly debunked on another forum , complete with the source for the picture. Nice try though Dave! "

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