Originally posted by caladonea
I believe that the stories of approximately 200 people jumping to their deaths is true. When 9/11 happened...I was at home...and I remember seeing footage of those people jumping....and there was a lot of them. My question is where is that footage now?
Originally posted by SGTSECRET
reply to post by GoodOlDave
and then there is you...who believes the 9/11 fable(according to your signature). interesting, do you ever think for yourself or just personally attack people? yes this thread is quite off but wow...believing the 'real' 911 story...very gullible.
Pauline Cuoio Pepe was a nineteen-year-old sewing machine operator and the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory. "It was all nice young Jewish girls who were engaged to be married. You should see the diamonds and everything. Those were the ones who threw themselves from the window," Pepe told a Manhattan historian. "What the hell did they close the door for? What did the think we were going out with? What are we gonna do, steal a shirtwaist? Who the heck wanted a shirtwaist?" asked Pepe. The New York legislature created a commission called The Factory Commission of 1911. Senator Robert F. Wagner, Alfred E. Smith and Samuel Gompers, president of the American Federation of Labor, headed the commission. One of the most significant results of this commission was the creation of the Fire Prevention division as part of the Fire Department. Restrictions were made to prevent fires from happening and to prevent the blockage of escape routes.
26. Yet another staged scene : top left (43:32), Pfeifer giving a sly look to his left, as if waiting for a prompt, his aide Ed Fahey on the right of the picture, fiddling with something out of shot, and between them in the centre, Mike Hurley, Director of Fire Safety at the WTC, staring at something in the distance (the shot opens with a close-up of him doing it, then widens out). Top right (43:33), Pfeifer has apparently been told to look down at his radio — as Fahey is already doing, perhaps. Bottom left (43:33), the start of their head movement as they allegedly react to the crash of someone hitting the ground outside the building, after falling or jumping from the upper floors. Bottom right (43:33), their final position — looking in three different directions — different from each other (compare picture 8b, another fake reaction shot), and different from where each was looking in the first frame — before the camera swings left (west) towards the front of the building. Hurley switches from east to west, Pfeifer from downwards to south-westwards and Fahey from down to south-eastwards.
Something like 200 people were killed that way at the North Tower between 8.46 and 10.28, an average of one every 30 seconds : are we really supposed to believe this would be the reaction of people in the lobby every time they heard that sound ? That 200 times, they would instinctively jump and look around them, to see where the noise was coming from ? The head movement is obviously deliberate and scripted : the crash is arranged, and so is their reaction, down to different directions designed to create artificial suspense.
Originally posted by CharonIncarnate
reply to post by Hawking
Guess i would not give up as easy as you. S far as you know its just your floor on fire and the firemen are on the way up. But people are different. Fight or flight. I guess you would choose flight haha
Originally posted by flyingdutchman2112
I do really think 9/11 was an inside job and a successful psyop. that being said people jumping out of burning buildings isn't a new phenomenon and those fires were very hot. One example I can remember is the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire in the 20s those poor women jumped to their deaths to escape the flames and the 9/11 victims did too.
With hundreds of people jumping, there would be hundreds of photographs....
Originally posted by Silverado292
reply to post by GoodOlDave
That would be one of the images I was talking about, pretty damn real. It's sad many of them have been abandoned.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by septic
One of the ways propagandists control you is through the use of fear.
...and one of the ways that those damned fool conspiracy web sites control you is by introducing such mind numbingly idiotic foolishness like "the jumpers are all faked" paranoia, which is so asinine that it doesn't warrant discussion. It gets the gullible kool-aid drinkers who think they're being so worldly and sophisticated by reading the nonsense on these fringe web sites all riled up and believing the gov't is constantly plotting to murder us all. Of course, the best way to combat these "evil secret plots" is to buy their books, T-shirts, and in one case I've seen, license plate frames.
So how much money have you spent on this conspiracy foolishness so far? You almost certainly had to have purchased at least one book or T-shirt, or paid to attend at least one conference, for you to be pushing something this outrageous.
FYI in the real world, THIS is what happened to the jumpers. I'll bet Prison Planet never told you about THIS, did the?
WARNING- EXPLICIT IMAGE. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED
edit on 26-12-2011 by GoodOlDave because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by yourboycal2
reply to post by downunderET
"I suggest you read it, and more to the point, everyone should read her book, it has all the answers to the 9/11 event"
Well before i go shell out 20 bux for a book , how about you give me some intresting parts of the book ?
It has all the answers to 9/11 event ? really ? Like the comission report and conspiracy theorists claim?
Seems like everyone has the answers to 9/11 its just to bad they don't all fit together.
I think you mean to say it has , differnt views of 9/11
ooo found an interview for judy
edit on 26-12-2011 by yourboycal2 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CharonIncarnate
Good find. I always wondered why people would jump when they saw a fire. If your in a burning building. Do you just assume the building is going to collapse? No you try to find a way around and if u cant you, you pray the fire department is close. Ese people didnt know the building was going to collapse and they didnt know the whole building was "on fire" so there is no reason for them to jump. If i was i a burning building 50 stories up, i would either try to run through weak spots in the fire or wait for help. Jumping out the window means one solution lol.
Originally posted by jeichelberg
I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...