Evidence of Higgs Boson (God Particle) Found by CERN

Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by Watts
Question:

Ok... so the Higgs gives everything mass... what gives higgs mass???

("Higgs field" is an energy fieldi t has no mass in and of itself: that's like asking:How much does a magnetic field weigh?...)

Approximately |B|^2/(8pi c^2)

Electric/magnetic fields have an energy density and carry momentum despite having no mass. They are part of the source term in Einsteinian gravitation. (This is all classical Maxwell + Einstein physics, no quantum needed)

I'm not an expert on this part, but it may be that the Higgs boson has a self-interaction with the background vacuum Higgs field so it gains mass with a similar mechanism as the other particles which couple to Higgs.

The relation of the background Higgs field to gravitation is not clear to me. It may be a situation like the supposedly enormous "zero point energy" density which is everywhere in space, and yet appears to contribute nothing to gravitation. It could be an artifact of an approximation/computational convenience (as with zero point energy).

Humans always want more and more, whatever it may be that satifies them, hence why in a monetary system, a way of life, they want more and more of it because it satisfies their psychological needs and/or cravings of wanting more. It's a part of their neurological sensors and they're always going to want more, regardless of what it is they like or satisfies them. When your brain wants more something, it sends a signal and it's always gonna want more of whatever it wants or feel is best. So, in a monetary system, humans want money to purchase things that make them happy or satisfy whatever their brain wants satisfied. Whether it be food, royalties, opposite sex, or power. Etc. Which is why we have all sorts of people, including those who we call "evil" because they having lots of money/power satisfies them.

I know this is a bit off topic but if you think about it, the exact same way we need things from our body to simply live can be applied through a much larger scale to where a planet needs it's components (animals, plants, insects, solids, gases, liquids, energy, etc)to be a thriving, expanding planet, meaning it's always growing or if you'd like, perhaps following a cycle that grows, keeps spinning, and is always moving. Might be why they say the universe is constantly expanding and you never hear them say it stops growing. Everything grows in some way as it ages. This system may not lead a bright future for us such as claiming to be a type two civilization and so on, so either most of us die off and sprout a new system or we change the one we have now to either a resource-based economy or whatever best suits humans wants/safeties. This can also be broken down into atoms whether they crash into each other/ are bonded to each other, they end up forming newer kinds of atoms, hybrids if you will, still carrying it's blueprint from both atoms in it. eventually they keep bonding, crashing, or whatever, thus forming different atoms which then makes newer kinds of atoms usually more improved according to it's environment. Somewhere along the line, consciousness was created which opened up "god knows how many more" possibilities. Hence why there can never be "eternal life because you cannot live as longer than a certain time if time never ends.

Which is why I believe in the Higgs boson. Sorry some of this had little relevance. It was for a "life of humans" imaginary thread.

reply to post by michael1983l


Yeah, right.
Dont you read press releases?
They announce such dribble every year.

reply to post by BBalazs


Maybe you shouldn't read press releases then. They always manage to hype up nothing into a headline. You often find that you get the original scientific journal or study published with a result, say, 'a certain drug was found to decrease the size of a retinoblastoma tumour cell by 7% in mice'

Then you get the news aggregation sites, or the blogs saying that scientists have 'managed to shrink a tumour cell'; "forgetting" vital parts of the story

Then the media gets hold of the story and sensationalises it: 'SCIENTISTS CURE CANCER!!!1!!!ONE!!'; which if you read the original article is absolutely not what was said at all