Republicans continue on their quest to destroy everything the U.S. stands for.

Originally posted by macman

Did some of the clueless rub off from Immaculated?

To pay for people not working, those working are floating the money to the Govt, so it can borrow it to give to those not working. Yep, that sounds great.

Can't wait till the economy gets even worse, even more people are out of jobs, and those with jobs will need to work harder to provide for themselves and the increasing amount out of work.
And I guess the opposite of trickle down, like the USSR, Cuba and so on are working or worked so well.


And again, business is there to create wealth for the owner.
The only time it is not, is in those fantastically successful places like USSR, Cuba and the rest.

So I guess having tens of millions of Americans out on the street will benefit America.
You do have the wonderfully ignorant position of manning the ignorant position in the first place
which is good fortune for conservative proponents everywhere. I guess you are telling me
that the economy will improve by making 9% of American destitute, business will sure
strive when 9% of their sales flag Plus the hungry people don't resort to crime or violence,
Prisions are free, vacant house maintain themselves, nope destitute people just go away, to the
retirement home in Tennessee...

Sadly for you the economy has improved for over 20 months straight... Hopefully for you it will
not blast off this year, those malls are looking HELLA busy over here. I was kind of hoping I would
get to see you flip on all of the things you "stand" for two years from now. Wishing you luck that
America fails, you can always try preyer!

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by mastahunta

 

Wow, how much weed did you smoke today?
You, a self proclaimed Marxist, gets to define what a RINO, Conservative or Republican is?
Now, that is funny.

I did not vote for either Bush.
Just like your logic, your assumption is wrong.

If I am a Marxist, then I should be able to recognize my own kind, your lack of logic is funny.

News Flash, 62,000,000 of your mates voted for him, AFTER created the largest governmental
expansion in US history, your fellow Rush listeners, Fox and friends, all of you.

This commie says you guys all govern very similar to BUSH...

Can you refutiate that Reagan raised taxes more times than Obama?

Can you?

Tell me which of these mythical "conservative" presidents are you dreaming of?

Ah, control the argument I see.

Here is the kicker, I didn't define you as such. Your screen name has it underneath.
I also don't live under the idea that I can define who you vote for. That is your choice.

And the whole Regan question? Go answer it yourself.
Never proclaimed my love of him. You assumed that.
Another failed assumption.

So which conservative are you talking of?

What example of this real Conservative are you touting?

Reagan raised taxes 11 times...

I am telling you, "REAL"conservatism is a myth, just like communism.

reply to post by mastahunta


So your retort is based in 2 main points.
First, it is better for the economy to have the Govt pay people that don't work by taking from those that are working.
Second, without it, people would all resort to crime and such.

That is it?
Good lord.
I seem to recall those being talking points from several major Dems this year.

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by mastahunta

 

Wow, how much weed did you smoke today?
You, a self proclaimed Marxist, gets to define what a RINO, Conservative or Republican is?
Now, that is funny.

I did not vote for either Bush.
Just like your logic, your assumption is wrong.

If I am a Marxist, then I should be able to recognize my own kind, your lack of logic is funny.

News Flash, 62,000,000 of your mates voted for him, AFTER created the largest governmental
expansion in US history, your fellow Rush listeners, Fox and friends, all of you.

This commie says you guys all govern very similar to BUSH...

Can you refutiate that Reagan raised taxes more times than Obama?

Can you?

Tell me which of these mythical "conservative" presidents are you dreaming of?

Ah, control the argument I see.

Here is the kicker, I didn't define you as such. Your screen name has it underneath.
I also don't live under the idea that I can define who you vote for. That is your choice.

And the whole Regan question? Go answer it yourself.
Never proclaimed my love of him. You assumed that.
Another failed assumption.

So which conservative are you talking of?

What example of this real Conservative are you touting?

Reagan raised taxes 11 times...

I am telling you, "REAL"conservatism is a myth, just like communism.

edit on 18-12-2011 by mastahunta because: (no reason given)

I never gave an example of such.
You knee jerk reaction'ed it.

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by mastahunta

 

So your retort is based in 2 main points.
First, it is better for the economy to have the Govt pay people that don't work by taking from those that are working.
Second, without it, people would all resort to crime and such.

That is it?
Good lord.
I seem to recall those being talking points from several major Dems this year.

So explain for us here, how people will

A. Survive without an income
B. Do without a way to earn an income

???


Simple...

You tell us, are you gonna put them up in your house?

reply to post by macman

Bush was not a Conservative.

Yeah, another lie spread by conservatives to disconnect themselves from the obvious failures of the GW admin.

GW supported all the things you support here on ATS, eliminate laws that keep corporate abuse in check, big military, big police state. That is the heart of Conservatism, and that is what you believe in.

It is more denial.

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by mastahunta

 

So your retort is based in 2 main points.
First, it is better for the economy to have the Govt pay people that don't work by taking from those that are working.
Second, without it, people would all resort to crime and such.

That is it?
Good lord.
I seem to recall those being talking points from several major Dems this year.

So explain for us here, how people will

A. Survive without an income
B. Do without a way to earn an income

???


Simple...

You tell us, are you gonna put them up in your house?

Yep, the only 2 ways a Marxist knows, either the Govt provides by taking from people, or the Govt persuades you to give to others.
How about this, why don't you put them up, and I keep my money.
It is a Win Win Win.

But, keep marching to the drum beat of taking from some to give to others. Once the well is dry, there are going to be pissed off people all around.

I also have yet to see where I have to work, to provide for others. Don't seem to see that in any of the founding documents.
Only from the minds of Liberals and Progressives.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman

 

Bush was not a Conservative.

Yeah, another lie spread by conservatives to disconnect themselves from the obvious failures of the GW admin.

GW supported all the things you support here on ATS, eliminate laws that keep corporate abuse in check, big military, big police state. That is the heart of Conservatism, and that is what you believe in.

It is more denial.

Aside from a large Military, you are as wrong as anything else you pitch.
Bush was no Conservative.

Funny, as you and masta keep bringing him up like I'm supposed to just nod say "ok".
You speak his name so much, sounds like the love affair is between you guys and Bush.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman

 

Bush was not a Conservative.

GW supported all the things you support here on ATS, eliminate laws that keep corporate abuse in check, big military, big police state. That is the heart of Conservatism, and that is what you believe in.

Please provide proof that I supported Bush.
Please. I beg you. Pretty please!!!!!!!

reply to post by macman


As opposed to the conservative plan where banks pay people that don't work by taking from those that are working?

That is how the republicans have been running things.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman

 

As opposed to the conservative plan where banks pay people that don't work by taking from those that are working?

That is how the republicans have been running things.

So no proof huh?
Ok then.

Originally posted by macman


And again, business is there to create wealth for the owner.
The only time it is not, is in those fantastically successful places like USSR, Cuba and the rest.

Please explain.
The only point of my business is to create wealth for me, the owner.

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by mastahunta

 

It is clear that you have never run a business and are of the mindset that the owner not only owes all of society for their success, but also thinks that society gets to dictate what pay they draw as well.
The business was created to provide the owner a path to create wealth for themselves.
This clueless idea that chanting "well, they make SO much more money" does not lead to anything but showing your envy of those with.

Explain to me how you create wealth without the help of other people by owning a business?

Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by macman


And again, business is there to create wealth for the owner.
The only time it is not, is in those fantastically successful places like USSR, Cuba and the rest.

Please explain.
The only point of my business is to create wealth for me, the owner.

What is there to explain.
I create a business not to provide jobs to others, but to provide a job for myself and create wealth.
Not very hard to understand.

Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by mastahunta

 

It is clear that you have never run a business and are of the mindset that the owner not only owes all of society for their success, but also thinks that society gets to dictate what pay they draw as well.
The business was created to provide the owner a path to create wealth for themselves.
This clueless idea that chanting "well, they make SO much more money" does not lead to anything but showing your envy of those with.

Explain to me how you create wealth without the help of other people by owning a business?

Help?!?!?!?!?!
The people working at the business are provided pay for doing so.
It is then, not in turn "their" business. Unless you are working under Communism.

reply to post by macman


Easy

Deregulation, the heart of all republican plans, prevent government from enforcing laws against business corruption.

reply to post by macman


Of course.

Paris Hilton.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman

 

Easy

Deregulation, the heart of all republican plans, prevent government from enforcing laws against business corruption.

So because I support limited Govt, means not only I support Bush, but also that I want sweeping deregulation of everything?

Bud, you really need to learn a thing or two about assumptions.
Your Hardy Boys investigation of me is an epic failure in it's own.
Scooby Doo and Gang could do a better job at this.

But no, I don't Support Bush, never have.
Never said I was a Republican either.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman

 

Of course.

Paris Hilton.

An ugly skank. What is your point?
Or are you just left with statements like this?

reply to post by macman


Really, so you do not believe in deregulation?

Seems a great many of your posts clearly support deregulation of business.