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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by poet1b
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Paris Hilton is just a good example of the many trust fund babies living high off the hog of the massive redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the super rich, proving my earlier statement.

Sorry that you don't like the evidence, but doesn't change that I am right.



What evidence?
Who cares what she has. It is not your nor my business.

You carry too much Envy of others. That is your problem.


Way to miss the point.
When you can use your job creator defense and apply it to her, you might be onto something. If all you can do is disparage her because she is not the rich person you want as an example then you have no argument.




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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No, you just don't like the answer.

Sweeping means everything.
Good lord, I think a 10 year old could figure that out.

Don't throw a tantrum because I did not give you the answer you wanted.

I don't think sweeping deregulation is needed.
I think limiting Govt and reducing it's influence and abilities is needed.



Everything?
Imagine the money I could make selling child pornography if it were not for those pesky regulations.
Going to come march on Washington with me to eliminate those regulations?
Hell, I would love to make a quick buck selling poisonous baby food for a while.
U2U me your contact info and we will fight this fight together!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman

Nope, dumb as a box of rocks.
That is the only reason why you keep getting spun around and retorting that I agree with Bush, yet have no proof.

The free market has not been free for a LONG time now.

The free market would have allowed the banks and companies to fail.
The free market would have rode out the housing issue, and corrected itself by now.

So, there really is no real free market now.



Ya and letting the wealth of half of American disappear would have be good how?



Disappear into the Abyss?
Where would it go?


You understand that banks are financed with depositors money?


Yes, and your point being what?






Well that post right there kind of says it all.
Mac, this is not working for you. This is not working for any of your type here. Most importantly, this post right here shows you never knew what you were arguing anyway.
I do not mean this to just be mean but you have done nothing but repeat Savage talking points for as long as I have been reading your posts and this post, THIS POST, kind of explains all of that for me.
I am looking for people on ATS that may not agree with me but at least understand the things that they themselves write. Know any?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:35 AM
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We could both linkup and become "Job Creators:! LOL! The hypocrisy of some is mind boggling.




posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


Rumsfield???
Oh come on.
Look, I despise 0bama, but I really don't like Bush and the Admin with him.





Did you really dislike Bush both times you voted for him as much as you really dislike Bush enough to vote in one of his clones next year or is there something old and not the least bit genuine about that statement.
Bush was voted in twice and yet he is a progressive and no conservatives ever voted for him and none of them plan on basically electing him again given the choices.

Sure.


Unless you have some sort of proof, showing that I voted for him, just like Immaculated, your pitching BS.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Try again what?
Ask a direct question, you will get a direct answer.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman
 


Paris Hilton is just a good example of the many trust fund babies living high off the hog of the massive redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the super rich, proving my earlier statement.

Sorry that you don't like the evidence, but doesn't change that I am right.



What evidence?
Who cares what she has. It is not your nor my business.

You carry too much Envy of others. That is your problem.


Way to miss the point.
When you can use your job creator defense and apply it to her, you might be onto something. If all you can do is disparage her because she is not the rich person you want as an example then you have no argument.


Creating a business and Paris Hilton has nothing to do with each other.
You show contempt and Envy as to what she has, basically because she is the child of a business man.
If you want to hold her on a pedestal as your arguing point, you have failed right out the chute.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by poet1b
 


No, you just don't like the answer.

Sweeping means everything.
Good lord, I think a 10 year old could figure that out.

Don't throw a tantrum because I did not give you the answer you wanted.

I don't think sweeping deregulation is needed.
I think limiting Govt and reducing it's influence and abilities is needed.



Everything?
Imagine the money I could make selling child pornography if it were not for those pesky regulations.
Going to come march on Washington with me to eliminate those regulations?
Hell, I would love to make a quick buck selling poisonous baby food for a while.
U2U me your contact info and we will fight this fight together!


Now you incorporate Pedophilia? Who ware you, King of the Obtuse?
Poisonous baby food? really?
Now I see what you are doing, basically repackaging the 0bama comment of "Republicans only want dirty air, water an etc..".
Ok, sure sure then.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Algernonsmouse

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by macman

Nope, dumb as a box of rocks.
That is the only reason why you keep getting spun around and retorting that I agree with Bush, yet have no proof.

The free market has not been free for a LONG time now.

The free market would have allowed the banks and companies to fail.
The free market would have rode out the housing issue, and corrected itself by now.

So, there really is no real free market now.



Ya and letting the wealth of half of American disappear would have be good how?



Disappear into the Abyss?
Where would it go?


You understand that banks are financed with depositors money?


Yes, and your point being what?






Well that post right there kind of says it all.
Mac, this is not working for you. This is not working for any of your type here. Most importantly, this post right here shows you never knew what you were arguing anyway.
I do not mean this to just be mean but you have done nothing but repeat Savage talking points for as long as I have been reading your posts and this post, THIS POST, kind of explains all of that for me.
I am looking for people on ATS that may not agree with me but at least understand the things that they themselves write. Know any?


Again, by stating the opposing doesn't understand nonsense, you proclaim yourself winner? Sounds like the Immaculated way of arguing on the internet.

And sorry, don't listen to Savage Nation. Nice try.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by Algernonsmouse
 


We could both linkup and become "Job Creators:! LOL! The hypocrisy of some is mind boggling.



Please do.
That would be very entertaining to watch.
You both start company A.
Have no real understanding as to how to run it, apply the Socialist mentality, look for a Govt bailout and fail.
That would be funny indeed.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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She is an heiress, whose life is heavily subsidized by the tax policies that you advocate.

She is also a good example of the absurdity of extreme wealth.

I think you are jealous of the guy buying his beer.
edit on 22-12-2011 by poet1b because: spelling error



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman
 


She is an heiress, whose life is heavily subsidized by the tax policies that you advocate.

She is also a good example of the absurdity of extreme wealth.

I think you are jealous of the guy buying his beer.
edit on 22-12-2011 by poet1b because: spelling error

Buying who's beer?

I don't care is she is an heiress. Not my business.
Again, other then showing contempt and envy to those that are wealthy, what else are you trying to prove?



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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You are happy to send our nations heiresses tax subsidies, but have a hard on for the guy buying beer, when she gets far more in subsidies than the guy buying beer.

And apparently you have no reading comprehension skills. I find it real hard to believe you run some S type corporation.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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You are happy to send our nations heiresses tax subsidies, but have a hard on for the guy buying beer, when she gets far more in subsidies than the guy buying beer.

And apparently you have no reading comprehension skills. I find it real hard to believe you run some S type corporation.


First off, I never said I agreed with Corp Tax subsidies. So, that can go right to the crapper.
Secondly, I never said that I currently run a Corp.
Thirdly, don't really care what your thoughts on my comprehension skills are.
I have been very successful thus far with my level.
And lastly, you never answered as to why anyone should care what she has, outside the whole "Tax subsidies" argument. The Hilton family can't have all that wealth just due to getting tax write offs for the business.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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They probably have a large chunk of that wealth due to tax subsidies, where the free market policies that you do support, establish a continuous wealthy class, akin to the aristocrats of the days of kings. Never bothered to trace it down, Paris just happens to be an easily recognized example. Paris is just one of many heiresses and former trophy wives who spend their lives in luxury, without ever having to work.

Thought you claimed you ran some corporation, and employed large numbers of people.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b


They probably have a large chunk of that wealth due to tax subsidies, where the free market policies that you do support, establish a continuous wealthy class, akin to the aristocrats of the days of kings.

And so what then. If they used the tax code to their advantage, I guess more power to them.
Just another reason to institute the Fair Tax or Flat Tax.
It is also just a another shining example of how people can take advantage of the corrupt Govt and God awful Tax codes that were created by.................The Corrupt Govt.
I don't care about aristocrats, as I am not envies of what others have.


Originally posted by poet1b
Never bothered to trace it down, Paris just happens to be an easily recognized example. Paris is just one of many heiresses and former trophy wives who spend their lives in luxury, without ever having to work.

WHO CARES. Honestly. Why does it matter?
They have money, get over it. Stop being so envies of others.


Originally posted by poet1b
Thought you claimed you ran some corporation, and employed large numbers of people.

Nope, not that large.
I helped start and ran a Business a while ago. Employee count was under 10 plus 10 contractors.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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I am no lover of Republicans, but just like I called you out on another thread for being blindly partisan, I'll call you out again. Please tell me why if the Democrats are the beacon of light (yes I know an exaggeration) that Obama chose to fill his cabinet full of Wall Street and Investment bank insiders? If the Democrats are for freedom why did they vote along with Republicans to extend the Patriot Act? Why hasn't gitmo closed? Yes the congress and senate the republicans have a majority, but they didn't in 2006 till 2010 I believe.

OP you come out as real intelligent, why is it that you cannot see that both parties are beyond our control and are actively working the agendas of those that lobby hardest? I agree that the republicans are either knowingly or unknowingly mouth pieces for the corporation and aristocratic establishment for the most part, but Democrats aren't really much better. The game is fixed, either bet you chose the house wins.
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posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by poet1b


They probably have a large chunk of that wealth due to tax subsidies, where the free market policies that you do support, establish a continuous wealthy class, akin to the aristocrats of the days of kings.

And so what then. If they used the tax code to their advantage, I guess more power to them.
Just another reason to institute the Fair Tax or Flat Tax.
It is also just a another shining example of how people can take advantage of the corrupt Govt and God awful Tax codes that were created by.................The Corrupt Govt.
I don't care about aristocrats, as I am not envies of what others have.


Originally posted by poet1b
Never bothered to trace it down, Paris just happens to be an easily recognized example. Paris is just one of many heiresses and former trophy wives who spend their lives in luxury, without ever having to work.

WHO CARES. Honestly. Why does it matter?
They have money, get over it. Stop being so envies of others.


Originally posted by poet1b
Thought you claimed you ran some corporation, and employed large numbers of people.

Nope, not that large.
I helped start and ran a Business a while ago. Employee count was under 10 plus 10 contractors.


You are indirectly supporting the corrupt tax codes with that "who cares" attitude of yours.

The government is corrupt because BIG BUSINESS HAS INFILTRATED IT A LONG TIME AGO! Almost all the tax loopholes were written for the wealthy to take advantage of, thus leaving the middle class unprotected and the suckers of the system.

The super wealthy and many babyboomers are taking advantage of these abnoxious laws to make it big for themselves. It is not rocket science, that the wealthy are protecting the super-wealthy and the super-wealthy are protecting the aristocratic families of midevil europe. It is a rub my back and I rub your back deal.

Otherwise this truely perverted system(global free market capitalism) would have collapsed a long, long time ago.

You cannot in all honesty just dump all the blame on the government without sayin a big THANK YOU to them for protecting "your ass" for so long. I find it hypocritical in the extreme that right wingers who have something to gain with keeping the status quo are the same ones who trash it in the first place.

Leave it to the left-wingers to bring positive change. "You" are NOT capable!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
I am no lover of Republicans, but just like I called you out on another thread for being blindly partisan, I'll call you out again. Please tell me why if the Democrats are the beacon of light (yes I know an exaggeration) that Obama chose to fill his cabinet full of Wall Street and Investment bank insiders? If the Democrats are for freedom why did they vote along with Republicans to extend the Patriot Act? Why hasn't gitmo closed? Yes the congress and senate the republicans have a majority, but they didn't in 2006 till 2010 I believe.

OP you come out as real intelligent, why is it that you cannot see that both parties are beyond our control and are actively working the agendas of those that lobby hardest?


Wow. Here is another rocket science question. LOL

The republicans are center-right and the democrats are center-left. The socialists are left, the libertarians are right, the communists are extreme left, the anarchists are extreme right!

It is NATURAL for someone who is way left to vote for a democrat SINCE IT IS CLOSER to his ideology than republicans are. For the same reason it is NATURAL for a libertarian or anarchist to vote republican because IS IS CLOSER to his ideology.

Since everyone and their dog thinks voting for the socialists, communists, libertarians IS A WASTED VOTE they tend to vote for THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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We must understand that the Democrats control the White House and the Senate and therefore swing most of the weight at this time.I personally believe in TERM LIMITS for ALL politicians because no man or woman can
represent the people effectively beyond their first term without being totally corrupted and morally bankrupted.
Our government is dug in deeper than a Georgia tick and will be very difficult if not impossible to break the strangle hold they now have on the citizens of the United States of America.God help us in the coming times.





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