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Republicans continue on their quest to destroy everything the U.S. stands for.

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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Firstly, I'm not a progressive.


Nope. Individualism stems from I am a person, an individual and your rights end where mine begin.
The whole special little snowflake crap stems from Progressive feel good psychology.
No, I don't owe myself to society. That is more feel good BS like It Takes a Village.

I gave you a reason why society plays such an important goal. You respond by calling it "crap". I'm still waiting for a reason why. You need to back up your assertions.


Personal Responsibility = If someone is in the bad condition they are in, it’s because they are lazy, or stupid, or both – there is no need to even bother looking for socio-economic factors. I like simplistic explanations that I can use to bash the poor and disadvantaged while supporting cuts to vital services they need.

Sorry, once again, your success was not result of your work in isolation. There is the entire web of social relations which affect your success rate.


Success = I get to accumulate as much wealth as possible through destruction and exploitation. Then I get to fool myself into thinking that it was all my hard work and nothing else. I believe that the richest people actually “deserve” their wealth. Why? Because the divine "free" market deems it so!

As I said I'm not a progressive. The people you mentioned are bourgeois liberals; I would question how much of their wealth they actually 'earned' too.
We were arguing about this very thing in another thread, weren't we?



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Ok, you asked for it.


Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by MegaMind
 


Does meeting him and having face time for like a half hour mean anything so all of my accounts with politicians are via face to face communication. How or why I came into the deal will not be discussed nor elaborated upon plus it's extremely complicated for someone to blatantly lie while they are speaking for me as they all know I'd call each and everyone out on it.



Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by MysticPearl
 


Oh wow, can the obvious character assassination be more evident?

Buddy, let me assure you I've met a literate who's who of The SCUM and have met Mr. Paul himself and have spent time speaking to him and this is where and how I base my stance on someone. Until you've met and spoken freely to a small minute fraction of the people I have stay and remain quiet.

Nearly 1,000 politicians, nearly 2,000 entertainers, nearly 1,500 corporate masters of the universe with personal dealings with nearly 2,000 others!

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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman
 


My dealings with Matchbox Toys turning it from a $50 Mil (2002) company to a near $600 Million (2011) company got me noticed by The SCUM which they tried to manipulate me to do their bidding for them which afforded me the chance to meet alot of people that I typically wouldn't've gotten to meet. Met the current and last 6 NJ Gov's, the last 5 straight NY Govs, the current and every living POTUS, at least 50 present and former US Senators, at least 400 current and former members of The US House Of Reps, at least 10 current and former SCOTUS Justices, at least 50+ current and former heads of state, dozens of royals so do not tell me I do not know what I am talking about but you will not ever know what was discussed or with whom it was discussed.

A majority came to me. I rarely ever had to travel either out of state or out of region.

Payment was sex which has my numbers as high as 3,500 and has gotten me behind the wheel of some of the finest and fastest cars in the world. Yes, I've whipped around a Ferrari 458 Italia, Ferrari Enzo, Ferrari California, Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 SV, Lambo Reventon Coupe, Bugatti EB 16/4 Veyron (there is no feeling in the world that can match or top doing 240 mph on the ground), Nissan GT-R R35, 09 Chevy Corvette ZR1, Z06, 2010 Corvette Grand Sport, 2010 Camaro RS and SS, Dodge Challenger SRT-8, Porsche 911 GT2, Porsche Carrera GT, Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, Mercedes SLR McLaren, Lambo Murcielago LP640,

I've seen and have had knowledge of the following cars long before the public,
Ferrari
FF, California, 430 Scuderia, 458 Italia, the 599 replacement due at Geneva 2013
Lotus Evora, Mercedes Benz SLS AMG,
Lamborghini :
Reventon Coupe and Roadster, Murcilago LP670-4 SV,Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni, Gallardo LP560-4, Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera, Gallardo LP570-4 Superperformente, Estoque, Aventador LP700-4
Aston Martin
One-77, V12 Vantage, DBS V12, DBS Volante, Cygnet, Virage!
Porsche
918 Spyder, 911 GT2 997, 911 GT3 RS 997, Panamera 989.

I can't tell you how many times I was hooded to blind me to get tossed in the back of a van or a car just to drive around for what appeared to be hours that in reality was only like an hour tops.
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Edited from your original statement that placed you behind the wheel of all those cars.



Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Just about every family of The SCUM, celebs, politicians, entertainers!

I had to secure the Colonel's secret recipe and have held the gold box it's kept in for about an hour, one of the longest hours of my life.

The scariest thing I've ever held and actually got 2 people fired for doing so was the Presidential Nuclear Football, that damn thing is heavy, weighs about 50 lbs. Reason for the firings was that they allowed it to leave the secured zone as rules state it cannot travel no further then 50 ft of POTUS!

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There is no way in God's Green Earth, any statement from you can be taken seriously.
You are proved wrong at every step.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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You are free to call me whatever you want.

@macman

While I might not fit neatly into any one ideology, I most closely relate to libertarian socialism.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Don't allow him to get you to label yourself just so that he can't use it to take a swipe against you, label yourself an American and that is bulletproof!



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by macman
 


Firstly, I'm not a progressive.

Ok then. What are you?
Human or meat Popsicle?
A star if you get the movie right.


Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by macman
 


Nope. Individualism stems from I am a person, an individual and your rights end where mine begin.
The whole special little snowflake crap stems from Progressive feel good psychology.
No, I don't owe myself to society. That is more feel good BS like It Takes a Village.

I gave you a reason why society plays such an important goal. You respond by calling it "crap". I'm still waiting for a reason why. You need to back up your assertions.

Please, do explain yourself.


Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by macman
 

Personal Responsibility = If someone is in the bad condition they are in, it’s because they are lazy, or stupid, or both – there is no need to even bother looking for socio-economic factors. I like simplistic explanations that I can use to bash the poor and disadvantaged while supporting cuts to vital services they need.

Sorry, once again, your success was not result of your work in isolation. There is the entire web of social relations which affect your success rate.

No, not in isolation, that is correct.
But my success is not from you, it stems from me, my ability to operate a business, which provides others jobs. Jobs they choose to work for monetary compensation.
Or, work for someone else.
My success is based on my abilities, not others.



Originally posted by lrak2
reply to post by macman
 

Success = I get to accumulate as much wealth as possible through destruction and exploitation. Then I get to fool myself into thinking that it was all my hard work and nothing else. I believe that the richest people actually “deserve” their wealth. Why? Because the divine "free" market deems it so!

As I said I'm not a progressive. The people you mentioned are bourgeois liberals; I would question how much of their wealth they actually 'earned' too.
We were arguing about this very thing in another thread, weren't we?


Earned is another one of those terms that you define for yourself.
Is earning money just digging a ditch?
Or is it playing the stock market?
I do believe we were.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Don't allow him to get you to label yourself just so that he can't use it to take a swipe against you, label yourself an American and that is bulletproof!
Funny. I thought we were all Americans.
Yet you find no problem in labeling those that disagree with you.

I'd call you a hypocrite but that would insult hypocrites.



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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Oh wow, can the obvious character assassination be more evident?

Buddy, let me assure you I've met a literate who's who of The SCUM and have met Mr. Paul himself and have spent time speaking to him and this is where and how I base my stance on someone. Until you've met and spoken freely to a small minute fraction of the people I have stay and remain quiet.

Nearly 1,000 politicians, nearly 2,000 entertainers, nearly 1,500 corporate masters of the universe with personal dealings with nearly 2,000 others!

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Can I ask you TheImmaculateD1 what is your take on Ron Paul since you have met with him face-to-face?

I suspect the guy is controlled opposition like obama more-or-less, but this my opinion and I could certainly be wrong. Thanks!



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Beez,

It's the labels that people use to attack and take underhaned swipes at but label yourself an American without aligning with apart of the "Left-V-Right" paradigm con no one can attack you because attacking someone for labeling themselves as an American means the person taking a swipe at a person effectively takes a swipe at the nation!

We are all Americans above all else and the sooner we all realize this the better off we all will be!
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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A Member of the now infamous "Bought and Paid" Congress. He would've been the 2008 nominee but his inability to compromise on Social Security was an automatic non starter hence why McCain and the airhead got the nod. If Paul were to compromise on SS today by not going after it then he will be the nominee but since he continues to remain defiant on that makes that a non starter!



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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So, you won't mind of Ron Paul's Office is contacted, in reference to meeting with you?

Oh wait, let me guess, closed door meetings huh?



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Even if you did make an inquiry you would be told nothing as the office already has it's orders. Specifics of any of our meetings is classified and you do not hold the proper clearances to acquire said info.I cannot and willnot grant you clearance because your allegiance is questionable at best!
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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A Member of the now infamous "Bought and Paid" Congress. He would've been the 2008 nominee but his inability to compromise on Social Security was an automatic non starter hence why McCain and the airhead got the nod. If Paul were to compromise on SS today by not going after it then he will be the nominee but since he continues to remain defiant on that makes that a non starter!


Pretty much exactly what I suspected. Most of the people who support *small government* learned the republicans are too slow in destroying america and thus have outsourced the job to libertarians.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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All while doing the work and the bidding of The SCUM! He actually finished 2nd in 08!
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posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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A Member of the now infamous "Bought and Paid" Congress. He would've been the 2008 nominee but his inability to compromise on Social Security was an automatic non starter hence why McCain and the airhead got the nod. If Paul were to compromise on SS today by not going after it then he will be the nominee but since he continues to remain defiant on that makes that a non starter!


Pretty much exactly what I suspected. Most of the people who support *small government* learned the republicans are too slow in destroying america and thus have outsourced the job to libertarians.



Sorry, had a very long work day and that statement really made me laugh - thanks for that.

It is amazing how readily people swallow leftist propaganda.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by macman

As the owner of a corp, I am restricted in many things. Donations is one.


No you are not, that is a blatant lie. Your corporation may be but you are not. You are complaining that you only get one vote again.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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You still continue to deflect and fail to answer my q proves what I am saying.

TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT!

Hook, line, sinker, SUNK!

Deflecting what?
You are a liar and a BS'er.
Wild claims of sit downs with Ron Paul, Sex for knowledge, working for Matchbox Inc, discussions with what, 500 members (current and retired) of Govt, meeting with the President and involved with a Football issue and the icing on the cake, meeting with the late Colonel Sanders and holding the golden box that contains the 11 herbs and spices.
You, are a joke.

Back to the basement with thee.

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This post is your reason for not answering a question several people have asked several times in this thread? You keep responding to it without answering it. Calling another poster a liar or crazy or anything else helps you out how? You still made a statement that you yourself cannot even explain or answer a simple question for.

let's say I agree 100% with this post personally attacking that other poster. Great. How does that get you out of actually answering a question you have been asked so many times?

This entire thread kind of revolves around the fake premise you presented. Just one attempt to actually explain it would be most impressive.



posted on Dec, 14 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Stop trying to deny that you've got pie all over your face!

The Rev. Al Sharpton's Blueberry Pie Commercial
www.youtube.com...


I will admit that I love pie.
More partial to Key Lime then Blueberry.

What are you talking about?

You are a liar, plain and simple.
Or, you are diluted enough to actually believe in the tall tales you have pitched.

Shall I quote to provide a rehash of the BS you have pitched?


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I am not a liar. Answer the question for me, please? Or one of the other people that have asked it repeatedly? All you are doing is saying you do not have to answer because you think one other poster is a liar. Wow does that help your case.


Got an answer yet?
How does one get "dilluted?"



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