*Inciting racial hatred?:* Can (extreme) Islam ever coexist with 'the west'?

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posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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Well, another thread has shown that ATS cannot discuss Islam without a degree of racism being added to the thread. Sorry guys, but this thread has turned into something you see on Far Right message boards.

Another dark day for ATS.....




posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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islam has not and never will have any thing good ,positive or constructive to the civilized world , only hate, anger, jelousey and intolorance.
I think a new crusade is in order.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:13 AM
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I feel sorry for you people living in such fear. The world will change. Your way of life wont exist in a thousand years wether its aliens or muslims, deal with it.
We did it with Christianity. Its the way it is. You have 60 or 70 yrs of life enjoy it. Look out for your personal safety let politics and religion alone.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:18 AM
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the next time islam attacks the west ,a 1 meg neucler strike on mecca should do the trick. Just to show them where its at.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:19 AM
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Arnt the rebels fron Chechnia Muslim? Boy, they sure showed tolerance when they shot school children in the BACK while the children wrer trying to escape thier captors. I will be tolerant of peacefull Muslims when the peaceful Muslims start showing a little tolerance and start protesting and speaking out agianst thier extreme religeous counterparts. Untill then, its time for them to go back to where they came from. I have no problem with people wanting to live in America, (If I lived somewhere else, I would want to live here as well!), but they need to do it leagally and they need to SUPPORT AMERICA! Not the charities that keep giving to extremist charities!



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by cs2112
islam has not and never will have any thing good ,positive or constructive to the civilized world , only hate, anger, jelousey and intolorance.
I think a new crusade is in order.


The irony is so rich.


Onward Christian Soldier!


Let's hold off on the Holy War in this thread if we can please.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
Muslims in the UK and France do not
'live side by side with no trouble'.
Don't you guys read the news papers?
HUGE problems ... huge.


Sorry mate but I've seen peaceful coexistence in my home town (highest percentage muslim in the UK), for the last 30 years. We haven't had any problems at all here. Which huge problems are you talking about exactly? It's the right-wing/BNP/NF types that are causing all the ruckus and fanning the fires of hatred in the UK.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by muppet
Sorry mate but I've seen peaceful coexistence in my home town (highest percentage muslim in the UK), for the last 30 years. We haven't had any problems at all here. Which huge problems are you talking about exactly? It's the right-wing/BNP/NF types that are causing all the ruckus and fanning the fires of hatred in the UK.


Exactly Muppet, why cant more members on ATS be like you. As Muppet said, its the far right which is milking the problems in the UK. I have never had a problem in my town with muslims at all


[edit on 7-9-2004 by infinite]



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
Well, another thread has shown that ATS cannot discuss Islam without a degree of racism being added to the thread. Sorry guys, but this thread has turned into something you see on Far Right message boards.

Another dark day for ATS.....


Sorry for the Blunt education... Islam is not a Race thus not Racism. There are words that do fit... please use correct words... Unless you of course are attaching a race to Islam, in that case you ARE the racist.

While you ponder that thought, check out this picture of a loving Muslim mother...
She seems very pleased with her handiwork...
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT:
www.kinjakahn.com...

[edit on 7-9-2004 by looking4clues]
Replaced picture with link and warning.

[edit on 7-9-2004 by RANT]



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:34 AM
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Ok, i stand corrected.
Tell me what was your views on islam before september 11th??



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:38 AM
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If thats a pic of a circumcision, she missed!
Seriously though, what is that lady doing to that child? I think the baby is a little young fo its first foray into trepedation(spelling?) If they can cause this kind of injury on thier OWN children, then what hope have we of EVER opening a meaningful dialog to stop the murder of thousands more from both sides?


[edit on 9/7/04 by Kidfinger]



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by muppet
Sorry mate but I've seen peaceful coexistence in my home town (highest percentage muslim in the UK), for the last 30 years. We haven't had any problems at all here. Which huge problems are you talking about exactly? It's the right-wing/BNP/NF types that are causing all the ruckus and fanning the fires of hatred in the UK.



- Spot on Muppet.

Nice to see some proportion and accuracy here.

No one in their right mind is claiming perfection (especially with so many revolting little fascists out to cause trouble) and it is true that some young Asian lads in England have been involved in trouble (cos they ain't taking it lying down anymore) but it is a total lie to claim the UK is wracked by racial problems with 'Islam' or Muslims in a big way.

In terms of trouble though, the world over, I would suggest the 'average' black man is the guy who suffers the most, not the 'average' white bloke.

By way of education for the idiots pretending that there is going to be a Muslim europe anytime soon.......grow up!

I don't give a blue bugger what any nutty Islamic site claims (I'll find you a few white power ones foretelling an all white world in the next 100yrs if you like, so what, they're idiot nutters too).

Europe (as in the current 25 EU states) has a population of about 475millions. There are currently approx 35million Muslims in all of this europe.....and if you include those further east it climbs to 50millions, so what?

There is not going to be a Muslim dominated Europe, ever.

Wise up.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by looking4clues
While you ponder that thought, check out this picture of a loving Muslim mother...
She seems very pleased with her handiwork...
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT:
www.kinjakahn.com...

[edit on 7-9-2004 by looking4clues]
Replaced picture with link and warning.

[edit on 7-9-2004 by RANT]


Looking4clues, you're obviously on a roll posting Republican war porn today so don't let me stop you, but please use links instead of direct displays of a graphic nature like that.

I'd comment on the picture itself, but we discussed the accepted religious ritual thoroughly some time ago on ATS when others tried using the same picture to whip up hate of Islam for their twisted politcal agenda. So this particular brand of Ignorance is pretty well DENIED here already.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Kidfinger
If thats a pic of a circumcision, she missed!
Seriously though, what is that lady doing to that child? I think the baby is a little young fo its first foray into trepedation(spelling?) If they can cause this kind of injury on thier OWN children, then what hope have we of EVER opening a meaning dialog to stop the murder of thousands more from both sides?


The is apart of Islam (cant remember what part), that inflict pain upon theirselves. The chances are, the son done it himself, but this type of muslims do kinda scare non muslims.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:44 AM
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I hear they make children play with rattlesnakes and suffocate them in rugs to exorcize evil spirits in some areas of the deep south. I guess that must mean all American's think that way, right?



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by Kidfinger
If thats a pic of a circumcision, she missed!
Seriously though, what is that lady doing to that child? I think the baby is a little young fo its first foray into trepedation(spelling?) If they can cause this kind of injury on thier OWN children, then what hope have we of EVER opening a meaning dialog to stop the murder of thousands more from both sides?


The is apart of Islam (cant remember what part), that inflict pain upon theirselves. The chances are, the son done it himself, but this type of muslims do kinda scare non muslims.


It looks like to me that the mother is holding a knife. Is that kid old enough to knowingly inflict thst kind of injury on himself?



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:46 AM
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Can (extreme) Islam ever coexist with 'the west'?
Answer:
NO......unless extremism either reforms itself or is eradicated, there will be no true coexistance. This can also be said for said "coexistance" between Israelis and Palestinians.....think about it.



seekerof



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
Exactly Muppet, why cant more members on ATS be like you. As Muppet said, its the far right which is milking the problems in the UK. I have never had a problem in my town with muslims at all

[edit on 7-9-2004 by infinite]


www.newsmax.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2004/09/05/wosse705.xml

Heres a couple stories you must have missed...I guess you're too busy getting along with them.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Kidfinger
It looks like to me that the mother is holding a knife. Is that kid old enough to knowingly inflict thst kind of injury on himself?


Im not sure,
Some of the male members whip themselves with chains,etc to show love (i think) to allah, but i could be wrong. But seeings i am a nice guy, i shall look on the net for more information for you to understand



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by muppet
I hear they make children play with rattlesnakes and suffocate them in rugs to exorcize evil spirits in some areas of the deep south. I guess that must mean all American's think that way, right?




You have watched TOO much TV.





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