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posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
There are many Muslims living in the UK and although on the surface we tolerate them, underneath its a powderkeg slowly being filled.

I feel we will have 20 years tops befor a major ruckus breaks out.

Are you saying that the people of the UK who are tolerant now will be the ones creating the "ruckus", or are you saying that the muslims that live there will be the instigators? Because you worded it as if you will be attacking the muslims first.




posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by smokenmirrors
man, if you think the war being played out right now is between snow white and the seven dwarfs, that is your business. but my sight is clear at 44 years old, and i see a war between the west and islam.

Please explain to me then why the 3 million muslims currently living in the United States have not taken up arms against the United States then? Are they all spies or what? You are the one making these allegations, I want actual proof that all people who practice islam are at war with the United States at this very moment in time.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by smokenmirrors


man, if you think the war being played out right now is between snow white and the seven dwarfs, that is your business. but my sight is clear at 44 years old, and i see a war between the west and islam.


I hate to disagree with you, but this is a war with terrorists, who in this case just happen to be radical Muslim extremists. If the Red Army Faction had brought down the twin towers, we would be fighting against radical Italian terrorists.

Unfortunately, the religious beliefs of Islamic whackos cause them to be unstable as viewed by the rest of the civilized world. They commit atrocities, and there is no choice but to go after them. Eradication is the only choice, as they have been brainwashed from early childhood to hate anything that is non-Muslim.

Ever see the documentary where the 4 year old Palestinian girl calls Israelis pigs? Disgusting.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by heelstone

Originally posted by smokenmirrors
man, if you think the war being played out right now is between snow white and the seven dwarfs, that is your business. but my sight is clear at 44 years old, and i see a war between the west and islam.

Please explain to me then why the 3 million muslims currently living in the United States have not taken up arms against the United States then? Are they all spies or what? You are the one making these allegations, I want actual proof that all people who practice islam are at war with the United States at this very moment in time.


Um.... Wernt the terrorist who flew planes in 9-11 living in America? Sounds like some of them have taken up arms to me. And as for rhe "peacefull muslim community", if they dont protest what the extreimest are doing doesnt that make them almost as bad? I was born a christian, however, as my life progressed, I realised that some of the teachings were entirely to savage to do anybody any good! yea, lets go stone a gay!(SARCASIM!!). Needles to say, I began my own spiritual search when I learned of these suppressed teachings. People are monsters ONLY if they want to be. These people want all westerners dead, but half of them "sin right allong with the sinners"!! I.E. adopting the western culture as thier own.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by heelstone

Originally posted by smokenmirrors
man, if you think the war being played out right now is between snow white and the seven dwarfs, that is your business. but my sight is clear at 44 years old, and i see a war between the west and islam.

Please explain to me then why the 3 million muslims currently living in the United States have not taken up arms against the United States then? Are they all spies or what? You are the one making these allegations, I want actual proof that all people who practice islam are at war with the United States at this very moment in time.


Hey pal, don't put words in my mouth! I did not say all people who practice islam are at war with the United States.

I said the war currently raging is between the West and Islam, and stand by it. It is a war of arms, but also a war of ideas. As all Christians and Jews are not actively taking up arms against muslims, so all muslims are not actively taking up arms agains christians and jews. The 3 million muslims in America condone the terorists simply by their inaction in protest, and support the war of islamoterror against the west in so doing, along with the $$$ they provide through the established channels of donations in their religion. There will come a day where the anger and backlash against muslims/arabs in western countries will be severe.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 09:59 AM
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I agree with you Smokenmirrors. through the channelling of money through certain Islamic charities, they continually show support for the extriemest. Also, This is a war agianst Muslim terrorist. If the RIA decides to get in on this, then things might change as far as profiling terrorist in this war.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction
Found this on a radical Muslim website. It disappeared shortly thereafter. I wonder why....the interesting part is in the lower right hand corner, under the heading, "After 100 years".....

Green means Islamic state. Not just a country dominated by the religion, but an Islamic government.




This is their mission, they are right about that. However, their getting butt punked pretty good right now, so I doubt in 100yrs that goal will be out the window if the US keeps on the them the way they are now...

I know a few muslims that live peacefully in mostly white neighborhoods.
But these are the ones who came here to work hard and live in peace, so they are doing just that.

Young muslims are impressionable, if you look at the age over there the majority of muslims are 21 and under.
It's this age group we have to look out for, older muslims over here are nothing to worry about.

Back home there was two guys that went to my friends high school and they were arrested because they were donating money to extreme websites, one went over for training, not sure about the other one, but do you see how easily these kids are to brainwash.. It doesn't take much.

Kids who don't have much to live for at that age will die for a cause, just like the army here... To protect what they know, however the terrorists camps breed hatred, ours doesn't, hate the west, fight, the west, and die a maryter because allah says if you don't adhere to muslim rule you are an infidel and must be killed..



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:17 AM
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I just realised something about that map. It says UNITED STATES OF ISLAM! These a-holes hate us so much, but they want to use most of our countries name as thier own!?Im beginning to think these morons are just a little jelous of my way of life. Its almost like they dont want us alive so they can live like we do without us being there to see it. I think I acted like thatonce..... in PRESCHOOL!



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by rustiswordz
There are many Muslims living in the UK and although on the surface we tolerate them, underneath its a powderkeg slowly being filled.

I feel we will have 20 years tops befor a major ruckus breaks out.


Europe is already doomed. They are pushing 10% Muslim lready... 20 years Europe will be under Sharia Law, public beheadings and broadcast calls for prayer, Queen of England in a head scarf.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by looking4clues
Europe is already doomed. They are pushing 10% Muslim lready... 20 years Europe will be under Sharia Law, public beheadings and broadcast calls for prayer, Queen of England in a head scarf.


It wont, there maybe an Islamic state in Europe, but the whole of Europe will not fall. Muslims respect other people religious views, its just the extremist which are giving them a bad name



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:39 AM
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i cannot believe the ignorance that is being displayed here.
who has invaded whom here. aside from a few questionably
islamic terrorists attacking the us and furthering the bush/carlyle/
halliburton agenda, where are the muslims fighting for anything
but the freedom of their home and holylands? mohamed the prophet taught the same hidden truths that jesus christ taught. tolerance, forgiveness, and an inner divinity. there is a reason we have been
called the great satan by many islamic nations. we have spent the
last three years and beyond destroying the most ancient and holy
places that exist on our planet. something like four million pounds
of depleted uranium munitions have been used by us. this is the cradle
of civilisation, and it has been reduced to a radioactive smoldering
mess, which will be unable to support life for millions of years.
someone is having a hard time coping witrh others here,
its pretty obvious. what can be done to change this? get the hell out
x



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:43 AM
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Still no one has come up with anything positive that islam has contributed to the civilized world. I had no idea it was such a difficult question.
Hint: you may be thinking for the next 1000 years!



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by cs2112
Still no one has come up with anything positive that islam has contributed to the civilized world. I had no idea it was such a difficult question.
Hint: you may be thinking for the next 1000 years!


Well its the second largest religion in the world...
Fastest growing religion in the world...
Peaceful people.........



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by cs2112
Still no one has come up with anything positive that islam has contributed to the civilized world. I had no idea it was such a difficult question.
Hint: you may be thinking for the next 1000 years!


This positive enough? This aint me holding the sign...




posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by infinite


It wont, there maybe an Islamic state in Europe, but the whole of Europe will not fall. Muslims respect other people religious views, its just the extremist which are giving them a bad name


I vote for France...largest Muslim pop, and a bunch of cheese eatin' surrender monkeys to boot....let them have Paris...



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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I think the reason that people have a particularly hard time seperating muslim terrorists from Muslims, is because so much of the extremists philosophy comes from the same sources as mainstream Islamic teachngs and scripture.
With groups like Bader Meinhoff etc. you can see that the group philosophy is not that of the population at large, and so the Germans in this case are not seen as threat.
Because most critics do not understand Islam, they assume that the tripe spouted by the terrorists is believed and practiced by all Muslims, this is of course not the case.
There are however difficult areas for mainstream clerics to deal with, in distancing themselves from the extermists. These clerics work hard to put a modern face to the teachings and translations for their congregation living in areas of the world they find at odds with their beliefs.
Fear breeds anger and eventually violence, don't be afraid of Islam, learn about it and interact with ordinary Muslims, they will in turn feel less fearful of you, and realise that your not trying to extinguish their religion and lets face it you would be forgiven for thinking that if you lived in some of the inner cities these people inhabit near me.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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Can (extreme) Islam ever coexist with "the west"?

Nope. Simple.
But Islam can, we just need to learn more about the religion and forget about the confussion and fear of the west.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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The difference between Muslims and Islamic Terrorists is only the level of anger.

Do not be fooled!

What a loving Muslim mother.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by k33l

Originally posted by infinite
Muslims already coexist with the west, Muslims in the UK live side by side with us with no trouble.

Same for us, here in Italy... and I have to say for France too, which has the biggest arab population in Europe...


Oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
Muslims in the UK and France do not
'live side by side with no trouble'.
Don't you guys read the news papers?
HUGE problems ... huge. But in the
case of France it doesn't matter. The
Muslims arel breeding to such an extent that
it will be a Muslim country in a generation
or two anyways.

non-muslims will be a minority.



posted on Sep, 7 2004 @ 11:08 AM
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Great example of Muslim religious tolerance.





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