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Originally posted by Comet2
Regarding the Kiesha Crowther ordeal
Mentioning points will get you censored, Asking questions will get you ousted.
In all likelihood, she *is* a fraud. Like I said, any white individual who calls themselves a shaman, is clueless at best, and a fraud at worst.
The best form of self-identification for a white individual who wants to study magick, is simply either a hippie, or someone who takes drugs.
Originally posted by onequestion
i personally believe a shaman is someone who is willing to sacrifice themselves in some way to help you learn a lesson.
the thing is they cant tell us what our shamans are for our communities because they dont function the same as theirs.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by seabhac-rua
"There's one re-born every minute"
Actually I was surprised to read that Carlos Castaneda was considered a fraud.
I have read all of the teachings of Don Juan, as well as other teachers of the Toltec. I do not consider any of Carlos Castaneda's writings to be fraudulent. Of course, they are mystical and fantastic but that is what I would expect. I have read the website where this man goes in an extreme amount of detail to point out that Carlos Castaneda is a fraud, sexual predator, and evil being, but doesn't actually put forth any real evidence other than word-of-mouth. I think the problem a lot of people have with spiritual teachers is the fact that they make money. I hear some say "Oh, well if he was so spiritual and One with God, then he wouldn't need all that money!" As if they do not need to survive in this physical world as well? If anything, I am glad they have that money because it means that they have resources to help get their message across to more people, and more easier.
Regardless of Carlos Castaneda actually being a fraud or not, I still find his writing to be wholly insightful and I have had experiences, both in the real world and in dreaming, that have lived up to the claims he has made. In addition, it has changed my way of thinking for the better (at least, in my opinion).
I was absolutely devastated after reading that. I tried one more time (only for one day) to go to the Elders Gatherings, but I just couldn't stay there anymore. Watching those people nearly worshiping Dhyani and calling her "venerable" almost make me puke. I even contemplated to expose her right then and there, but I figured that usually people don't appreciate being robbed of their happy self-delusions. I probably would have been chased out of the village with torches and pitchforks.
This is why I defend what little we have left. If the world really knew what was done to us you would be shocked. There is a lot of history being suppressed by the government of what really went on.
Originally posted by intrptr
All real teachers will teach that the key to wisdom is to find that same source of wisdom that they have found within yourself. In other words their ultimate goal is to make you less dependent upon them and more on your own inner strength. They free you from "yourself" and them. It's kinda like rearing a baby bird and then one day letting it fly free instead of keeping it in a cage forever.
Originally posted by onequestion
once again, at best you are clueless.