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Originally posted by Soapusmaximus
Its all well and good saying "don't hate Islam, they are just misinformed about their own religion".
But there are still plenty of them being taught, and happily believing its acceptable to kill innocents.
And when you look at this story www.dailymail.co.uk...
You can see, its not just religion, its jealousy and hate for us.
Don't get me wrong, I want the hell out of Afghan and Iraq, and Libya, and Yemen, Syria, Iran and wherever the F*** else these war mongers are trying to send us.
Afghan and Iraq, and Libya, and Yemen, Syria, Iran
Originally posted by CREAM
This video clears up misconception's...
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by CREAM
This video clears up misconception's...
Yeah, this is the usual excuse given when people of any religion do evil things in the name of that religion.
"They're not *real* Christians/Muslims..etc.., they're just mistaken."
Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
I'm also skeptical when the stories that I hear about how they treat their women makes Christianity, even during the Dark Ages, look like a hippie free-love bra-burning fest.
Originally posted by Soapusmaximus
Its all well and good saying "don't hate Islam, they are just misinformed about their own religion".
Originally posted by FFS4000
All the books speak as though god is vengeful
Originally posted by WhiteHat
The truth about "peaceful" religions like Islam... :bnghd: ...is not so subtle or hidden. Not even meant for double meanings, like in the bible. Very clear explained, as you can see.
Funny how we look at the same thing and see different shapes.edit on 7-12-2011 by WhiteHat because: (no reason given)
Main points: -Jihad never means to kill innocent people.
-Being the aggressor is NOT Islam, this is a key point put things into perspective. It is only Jihad to fight back against those who fight you.
If you can ignore these verses and recognize the good in the Bible, why can't you do the same for Islam.
Originally posted by WhiteHat
I only showed you that they ARE the aggressor, they must be, as they are instructed in their own book. All their history is one big try of conquering and expanding. Take it or leave it, I couldn't care less.
I didn't intend to discuss all their spiritual values here, only your point of view.
I never said other religions are perfect; but it seems that somehow they found an equilibrium and a way to live next to each other. We separated the state from religion, so we can think by ourselves, and not blindly follow an old book.
But not Islam.
Islam is not the single problem in this world, but it is a big one. Denying that is hypocrisy.
And if there is no way to even consider other points of view or facts, for that matter, why bother to post it here? I see your point and agree with it; not every muslim is a fanatic terrorist. Jihad is not always meant to be "holy war".
But can you see mine?
That "jihad" is taken most of the time as an excuse for war?
That a religion which is based on conquering others is the opposite of pacifist? That this is, in the long run, a threat for any other nation out there?
edit on 7-12-2011 by WhiteHat because: (no reason given)
You literally JUST said Islam is a PROBLEM.
Please point to me, in current times, where Jihad is the excuse for war.
Originally posted by CREAM
This video clears up misconception's about Islam espoused by BOTH Muslim extremists and people either against Islam or who are uninformed.
It explains a common qu'aran quote about killing non-believers and how that is often taken out of context.
Main points:
-Jihad never means to kill innocent people.
-Being the aggressor is NOT Islam, this is a key point put things into perspective. It is only Jihad to fight back against those who fight you.
edit on 7-12-2011 by CREAM because: (no reason given)edit on 7-12-2011 by CREAM because: (no reason given)