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Topic started on 21-11-2011 @ 05:42 PM by ripcontrol

Obama responds to failed debt deal, threatens veto

(CNN) - President Barack Obama on Monday said Republicans in Congress rejected what he called a balanced approach to deficit reduction that included tax increases on the wealthy.

"Despite the broad agreement that exists for such an approach, there are still to many Republicans in Congress that have refused to listen to the voices of reason and compromise that are coming from outside of Washington," Obama told reporters after a special bipartisan committee announced that it had failed to reach a compromise.

well they are both playing with our lives and fortunes....

the money is there

The Most recent lie: the supercommitte fraud

and i noticed the cuts went up a trillion.....

balderdash all of it..... This is where the government gets an epic fail rating....

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 05:47 PM by ripcontrol

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the need for more taxes I can only guess... they never use it for what it is meant for....

their is only one tax I could see as necessary

A tax of 50% on all lobbing efforts

it is the biggest growing industry to date and is a goldmine for taxing

ps... taxes are not revenue

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 05:53 PM by TheRedP1LL

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It doesn't help that everyone keeps denying that the white house is bought and paid for.

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 06:04 PM by seabag

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Nobody is denying that.

The debate is how to fix it.

Any ideas?

Should we protest?

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 06:28 PM by Blaine91555

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Let us not forget that Obama and the Democrats had complete control for two years and could not pass a budget. Also don't forget they control the Senate and the Senate is the reason the plans already passed in the House have died. The Senate won't even vote. The Democrats won't even vote for Obama's agenda. He does not need anyone else to pass it in the Senate and could not pass anything when the Democrats could do anything they want. That should tell you something.

Even Mathews, the sends a "thrill up my leg" guy went on a rant about Obama not doing or saying anything meaningful. It's getting really bad when he starts to loose his own people. The most divisive President in our history.

It's all games. They never intended for them to reach a deal in the first place. That would be leadership and we have no leaders.

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 09:31 PM by ripcontrol

Originally posted by TheRedP1LL
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It doesn't help that everyone keeps denying that the white house is bought and paid for.

It is it truly is... I think there is actually two groups vying for power

they are neither liberal or conservative... those are tools...

look over the history of ted Kennedy and several other high powered democrats.....

Compare to Reagan and the stunts he pulled with several other repub (like ike as well)

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 09:41 PM by ripcontrol

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A rigged presidency

by someone smart enough to realize these games being played with fate are way to dangerous for our way of life....

follow the start of the plan I posted in a link to the thread of mine in the first post....

at 6 billion saved over ten years so far.... if followed...

reply posted on 21-11-2011 @ 09:47 PM by ripcontrol

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not yet... not yet

it is expensive even to cheat and rig an election... what sad is that it is cheaper then an honest one.... much cheaper

The main thing the O-man failed on is his team... he has no bench at all....

reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 08:31 AM by Freenrgy2

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Like every power driven organization, whether it be governments or religion, the most effective way of controlling the masses is through fear.

It makes me sick that every election cycle is nothing but each party blaming the other and running campaign ads meant to instill fear in their constituents. Old people will lose medicare, children will lose their education, the middle class will have the bear the burden and so on.

And even when we vote and think we are eliminating part of the issue, whomever is left quickly assimilates the newbies into the fray. We are fighting a losing battle. The only way left is pure revolution. But even this is proving to be disastrous as evidenced by the corporate and political takeover of the OWS movement.

My friends and citizens, unless our government undergoes a drastic and immediate change in attitude and function, we are all doomed to continue our measly lives and we shall all perish. If you are one of the ones born into an elite family, then a curse be on you and your household.

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reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 08:55 AM by marg6043

Perhaps if all the corrupted whores in congress give back all the millions they have earned with inside trading thanks to their pimps in Wall street they could be able to raise billions toward the deficit, without imposing more taxes on the working class.

But as we know none of the whores wants to lose their corrupted earned briberies our nations political system can not be fix as long as is pimps behind the whores.

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reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 09:29 AM by Indigo5

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by ripcontrol

Let us not forget that Obama and the Democrats had complete control for two years

You mean where they had a one vote advantage allowing the GOP to Fillibuster more in those sessions than any other period in American history?

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Even Mathews, the sends a "thrill up my leg" guy went on a rant about Obama not doing or saying anything meaningful. It's getting really bad when he starts to loose his own people. The most divisive President in our history.

Confused...how does President Obama losing support of the idealogical left...make him the most "divisive President in history"?? Psst...not pandering to the far left, makes him a moderate. He is only viewed as a "Socialist" in the context of the fevered idealogues on the far right...the far left is asking WTF.

reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 09:36 AM by Indigo5

Originally posted by marg6043
Perhaps if all the corrupted whores in congress give back all the millions they have earned with inside trading thanks to their pimps in Wall street they could be able to raise billions toward the deficit, without imposing more taxes on the working class.

edit on 22-11-2011 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

The more and more I see of Congress...the more I believe it is not the left/right divide that is destroying DC, it is MONEY. If we were to institute strict campaign finance laws, severely restrict lobbying, require all politicians to place thier investments in Blind trusts while serving in office, the rest would work itself out.

reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 10:24 AM by jburg6

This sincerely pisses me off. We all knew the answer to the debt problem was not to form a super-committee that would keep procrastinating on cutting the national debt and reducing the budget. The next thing I see coming are more "extensions" and repeals of the automatic cutting as politicians from both parties pathetically attempt to save their own butts. Oh, and the president won't follow through on his guarantee to veto.

reply posted on 22-11-2011 @ 12:57 PM by xuenchen

I think these "automatic" cuts include medicare ?

Why would Obamuh support those cuts to medicare ?

And his record seems to be all spending and giving - no cuts ?

Must be some kind of election fumbleforn.

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