Russian Warships Enter Syrian Waters To Prevent NATO Attack

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posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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reply to post by ModernAcademia
 


Its not all about israel ya know! War will happen and it wasnt some weird dream of mine, or prophecy LOL!

The middle east knows the best way to in-incapacitate the west is via the economy (oil & gas), israel are like usual the, village idiot, holding a grudge since 1945, they want revenge and will attack probably before Chrstmas, our Christian festival, the dreams of our soldiers seeing there toddlers for Christmas broken (Iran likes this too) a war with a double edged sword, you think they don't know this?.

The U.S know this but don't want to involve them selfs hence why they have stated to the Iranian authorities to halt all nuclear activities until they leave the gulf, the U.S will strike only if absolutely necessary politically and economically, due to the financial implications and the U.S financial status, you'll be looking at QE20 if this blows up! dirt will be worth more than the dollar for 3 years.

It's not just about Iran or israel, lets add in turkey, Lebanon, Egypt,Italy,spain,Portugal and of course Greece ( A bankrupt and sovereign-less nation of the E.U) a perfect outwater for Russia to reclaim a western coastline, like the old days!

we all learned in history about the double edged sword of WW2 (Italy) Russia will arrive as a mediator, advisor and friend to western allies, but only to take Greece as there own, reclaiming the coast.

The reason why financial analysts fear WW3 so much, is the land grab potential and it's consequential political and economical implications within the west and particularly the E.U. If you think the E.U and it's currency will exist in 5 years I've beaten you to the betting office with the best odds!

Angela Merkel is just a re-incarnation of Adolf Hitler in the making (fear monger, bully, wannabe god etc, when it falls on deaf ears, worry!)- shes all nice but firm, for now, but lets look back in history! a horrid replay is going on.

We wont attack Syria from a NATO perspective, it will be a result of a Iranian strike from israel and ally support.

Turkey being the mediator and defector of the middle east will lead the NATO attacks, U.S makes friends and losses them like hats. Saudi Arabia was a solid Ally, now becoming a foe to western and eastern interests, but the U.S gaining Qatar,Yemen and Bahrain in the course of transfer of alliance. The Arab gulf in the interest of alliance is currently like a bag of worms (never the same worm you see when you open the bag)

oh did i forget China, Russia etc..........




posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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The only two Russian Black Sea Fleet vessels in the Mediterranean appear to be the Frigate Smetlivy and the rescue ship Epron?

rusnavy.com...


Having replenished supplies, frigate Smetlivy set a course for Black Sea straits. The ship is expected to return to Sevastopol on Nov 19.


Tartus in Syria is used to support anti-piracy operations off Somalia.

The Severomorsk used Tartus back in September on its way back to Russia after operations off the Horn of Africa.

rusnavy.com...

The reports of a deployment of Russian Navy warships to Syria/Syrian waters appears to be sensationalist. The Smetlivy doesn't appear to have been diverted after exercising with NATO assets. The replacement for the Severomorsk for anti-piracy patrols came from the Pacific Fleet. Any large scale movements of Russian Black Sea Fleet into the Mediterranean would be reported by Turkey and would be instant news. Turkey still has full control of the straits with naval transits monitored under treaty.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Russians announced back in September that the aircraft carrier Kuznetsov and escorts were going to deploy to the Mediterranean from November.

“Admiral Kuznetsov” ready for winter migration to the south

www.barentsobserver.com...

The visits to the Mediterranean and Syrian waters by the carrier have been a regular occurence over the past couple of years. So far there have been no further reports of this planned winter deployment.



posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by TechniXcality
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yea uh good luck with you biological weapons the U.S.A and it's allies could eat them ruski's for breakfast and than some islamic extremists for lunch, and for dinner china and it's cohorts after that i dont think wed have room for desert.


what is your age ,kid? Before trying to eat ruskis for breakfast you should consider fatality time of russian bioweapons for superplague its 4 hours .

for cobra venom generating bacteria it will less than an hour .Inserting bioweaponry into jet streams of the western hemisphere would be even option. Bioweapons will eat you before you can try eat us for lunch.

As for your avatar its mila jovovich a serbian
are texas women too obese?



posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 11:32 PM
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LOL let me see if i can inject some realism. The warships ARE NOT there and makes it FALSESQUE



Originally posted by Majic

Originally posted by princeofpeace
UMMMMMM....Russian warships have not entered Syrian waters so this thread is predicated on a falsehood.

It doesn't matter if Russian warships have entered Syrian waters or not.

The fact is, it's been widely reported, and that makes it factesque.



posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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I have relatives in Russia and they said Vodka drinking over there is akin coke drinking in the states or tea drinking in India or China.

I said Got Dayum!!! Those Ruskies be gettin trashed......



posted on Nov, 19 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
I have relatives in Russia and they said Vodka drinking over there is akin coke drinking in the states or tea drinking in India or China.

I said Got Dayum!!! Those Ruskies be gettin trashed......


Was that coke drinking in the states or sniffing??

I hear it's popular among many leaders..



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by SarK0Y
 


perfect not.These spiritual forces are a bigger threat than the West.Torsion physics and psychtronics is the root to deal with extra-dimensional spiritual aura beasts and other supernatural forces(powerful astral souls).Russia has that tech (elipton).

читать психотронных Голгофу

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I can believe all kind of russian tech.
Heck once my whole body literally turned into white stone for a few secs in russia, as if i had looked upon the face of an Angel or seen the Glory of God.
I.ve worked with russian people fror several years and they are nice folks
not in any way different from the rest of the world



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Personally, I consider things like this actual news. Why havnt I seen anythng about this on tv news or even in the paper?? Everyday Im thinking about how close the world is to ww3 and how much less the media and most people I know even care.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:59 AM
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people have been mentioning china a lot and I do have an interest in cross straight relations because of all this crap and the fact that the Chinese civil war is technically not over but does anybody really think china would attack us?

ok... there is the fact that when china says "AMERICA... YOU NEED NEW CURRENCY"... that kind of makes them look like the antichrist and when it turns out that the twin towers collapsed so neatly and easily, you have to ask "So why DID you build it that way Mr Chinese architecture firm man???"... but look at ALL YOUR STUFF.

Turn it over because it most likely says China or Taiwan, which is who the Chinese civil war involved to a large extent ftr and is just a curious part of history to me... and now they are both growing and I know Taiwan has become very prosperous.

Since we gave their stuff top shelf at every turn by honoring our own silly "free market" ideas, do you really think they would think they were justified in coming over here and kicking us around?

Only if they are purely evil inside.... or very forgetful.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Seriously, does anyone really think the roc or the proc is going to put their fist in someone's face at this point in time? why does it seem that some people want me to think that? or maybe they just want to hurt the government because they are sick and tired too... I don't know, i don't know. people just keep bringing up china... yes, all that over there is important but a Chinese invasion? A Chinese invasion of little Chinese orphans might be in order but a Chinese invasion?... and who was saying what about black Chinese helicopters.... are you serious? have they gone mad? LOST THEIR MINDS.... what in the world is going on?



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by antar
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This borders on off topic subject matter but I started it so, from time to time I have had glimpses or precognition, I do not expound on them in the public arena because they fall into the unexplainable even for me at times, this one was just one of those types of ah ha moments that I chalk up to future events which unfold and to keep an eye out for.

All I know for my own awareness in what shows me when and where to be 'more' alert is a flash of recognition about not worrying until Syria gets invaded or becomes part of an unfolding pattern of world events. That flash came 10 years ago but seems like yesterday to me.

Face it after 911 things really became jumbled up politically, militarily, and the msm focus on red herrings, and so much awareness came into peoples lives and they began to get more involved in world events which affect them personally, even if it is only from an armchair type awareness, this also takes courage and an open mind... For the most part people have been able to bury their heads in the sand if they choose to do so and carry on as if everything remains the same as long as they hold to their ideas and way of life.

In this flash it was more a total understanding of the reality which faces everyone when Syria is engaged as the surrounding countries moved many weapons of mass destruction during the Bush administration and the occupations to Syria.

Even though they may not seem to be main players they hold much more importance than most realize when it comes down to the final curtain.
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It would be great if you did a thread on these glimpses. And keep a running glimpse update on the thread.

Now back to OT comments.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Nothing will happen, you can go to sleep.
You ATS guys are like a horny dude, or some drug addict looking for a fix.

Sorry guys, but you're going to end up with blue balls this time around.



posted on Nov, 20 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by jrmcleod

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
 

What are "Russian interests" in the area? We're all familiar with the US's "interests": mineral wealth, control of strategically important geography and attacking the so called enemies of Israel.


Russia's interests are having a say on the price of Oil...that's enough motivation because a dictation of Global Oil prices by the US is the last thing Russia wants!


Russia's interests are about protecting it's sphere of influence.
The USA/West, are bombing its sphere and one by one, Russia is loosing countries that belong to it's sphere of influence through American/Western military intervention, or by "coloured" revolutions sponsored by the CIA and others.

If they lose Syria, they lose a major customer of their weapons.
They also lose more influence in the Middle East, while the US replaces a pro-Russian government with a pro-American government and gains influence.

I think the US will keep doing these things, trying to reduce Russias influence and sphere, and it will eventually get to the point where Russia will say enough is enough, and will make a serious threat of retaliation against the USA or it's allies, if these provocative actions do not cease, and may even mobilize it's armed forces as a sign it is serious.

You have to remember something as well..The USA is seen as a declining super power, and Russia is seen as a resurgent world power. The two are bound to bump heads over these issues sooner or later.

When the West bombed Serbia and broke up Yugoslavia, Russia wasn't in a position to act to protect Serbia.
When the Kosovo war came around, Russia was able to send a few thousand troops and captured the airport in Kosovo. This took everyone by surprise.

But lets keep in mind the sources of these news pieces. They aren't exactly credible news outlets.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by USAisdevil

Originally posted by TechniXcality
reply to post by USAisdevil
 


yea uh good luck with you biological weapons the U.S.A and it's allies could eat them ruski's for breakfast and than some islamic extremists for lunch, and for dinner china and it's cohorts after that i dont think wed have room for desert.


what is your age ,kid? Before trying to eat ruskis for breakfast you should consider fatality time of russian bioweapons for superplague its 4 hours .

for cobra venom generating bacteria it will less than an hour .Inserting bioweaponry into jet streams of the western hemisphere would be even option. Bioweapons will eat you before you can try eat us for lunch.

As for your avatar its mila jovovich a serbian
are texas women too obese?


I am 23 years old.. I am a veteren, you are nothing but a war supporter of russia and your like's. You bioweaponry is all but useless for if you ever used a single one, your world and most likely the whole world would be destoryed in retailation. So let's talk conventional war,the U.S and it allie's would stomp out any threat convententionally, infact we could assume that the rest of the world(none U.S allies) uses, terroristic/ no R.O.E tatics and WE would still win.As for mila jovovich as my avatar ty again, ignorant russki, maybe you'll get it right? and understand my pun. I should have never gave you a clue.



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by TechniXcality

Originally posted by USAisdevil

Originally posted by TechniXcality
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yea uh good luck with you biological weapons the U.S.A and it's allies could eat them ruski's for breakfast and than some islamic extremists for lunch, and for dinner china and it's cohorts after that i dont think wed have room for desert.


what is your age ,kid? Before trying to eat ruskis for breakfast you should consider fatality time of russian bioweapons for superplague its 4 hours .

for cobra venom generating bacteria it will less than an hour .Inserting bioweaponry into jet streams of the western hemisphere would be even option. Bioweapons will eat you before you can try eat us for lunch.

As for your avatar its mila jovovich a serbian
are texas women too obese?


I am 23 years old.. I am a veteren, you are nothing but a war supporter of russia and your like's. Your bioweaponry is all but useless for if you ever used a single one, your world and most likely the whole world would be destoryed in retailation. So let's talk conventional war,the U.S and it allie's would stomp out any threat convententionally, infact we could assume that the rest of the world(none U.S allies) uses, terroristic/ none R.O.E tatics and WE would still win.As for mila jovovich as my avatar ty again, ignorant russki, maybe you'll get it right? and understand my pun. I should have never gave you a clue.
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 07:06 AM
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BLV12 wrote


When the Kosovo war came around, Russia was able to send a few thousand troops and captured the airport in Kosovo. This took everyone by surprise.


It wasn't thousands of troops. The Russians moved a few hundred from United Nations peacekeeping duties in Bosnia Herzegovina by road through Yugoslavia to Kosovo. The Russians had been stationed in the US sector in Bosnia since 1996. They changed their SFOR titles on their vehicles for KFOR and travelled by road. They had to be resupplied with food and water by NATO forces once in Kosovo as they couldn't get any resupply direct from Russia. The Russian military were denied overflight rights by Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary.

news.bbc.co.uk...

www.nato.int...
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Veteran? you sound like a internet armchair warrior.




you are nothing but a war supporter of russia and your like's.


Yes,I am a warmonger,elitist of the highest order and ultrarich too and I believe in the superiority and purity of the slavic race and thus its superiority over your barbaric anglo-saxon race.My family was killed by NATO sponsored paramilitaries in the yugoslav civil war. So ,I fought for Serbian forces against NATO special forces,albanian KLA terrorists and albanian NATO sponsored drug lords and gangsters.I am borne serbian and will die russian and proud.

For us nuclear war is survivable and winnable....



Today, Russia may be conducting nuclear deception on a far vaster scale beneath Yamantau Mountain, where it has dug out a gigantic underground military complex designed to withstand a sustained nuclear assault. U.S. intelligence sources tell WorldNetDaily that the Yamantau complex is but one of some 200 secret deep underground nuclear war-fighting sites in Russia, many of which have been significantly upgraded over the past six years at a cost of billions of dollars.
www.wnd.com...
viewzone2.com...


The potential lifesaving effectiveness of the Soviet CD program is not a matter of unanimous agreement. However, several studies estimate casualty rates as low as two to three percent of the Soviet population in the event of nuclear war.25 Table I provides a Summary comparison of CD-related factors between the U.S. and U.S. S. R., including some apparent perceptions of U.S. and Soviet leaders concerning their CD programs.26 This divergence in emphasis and perception may have an impact on U.S. national security strategy
www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil...


soviets estimated 75% populace would survive , but CIA assumed in best case scenario , with 5 million-10 civilian losses


At this particular interview, Major-General Keegan produced thousands of photographs, pamphlets, and "open-source documents" on Soviet military sites and civil defense projects in proof of his assertions upon these matters. In the words of Major-General Keegan: "American strategy is premised on the principle of war avoidance, while that of the Soviet Union is premised on war winning . . . The difference is a profound one.
www.christadelphia.org...



The potential lifesaving effectiveness of the Soviet CD program is not a matter of unanimous agreement. However, several studies estimate casualty rates as low as two to three percent of the Soviet population in the event of nuclear war.25 Table I provides a Summary comparison of CD-related factors between the U.S. and U.S. S. R., including some apparent perceptions of U.S. and Soviet leaders concerning their CD programs.26 This divergence in emphasis and perception may have an impact on U.S. national security strategy
www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil...


soviets estimated 75% populace would survive , but CIA assumed in best case scenario , with 5 million-10 civilian losses




In the interview he said quite categorically that he believes Russia has already achieved military superiority over the U.S.

He spoke of the astonishing civil defense measures which have been developed, and continue to be developed, in the Soviet Union. He stated that 25% of all Russian factory workers are in training programs preparing them for civil defense leadership roles. Major defense manufacturing facilities in Russia have been dispersed well clear of all existing major industrial areas so as to afford a large measure of protection for those industries in the event of nuclear war. Keegan alleged that he was in possession of ample evidence to show that the Russians are in the process of building up huge stocks of foods and grains, in preparation for war. He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the Russians are not merely aiming for superiority but are "preparing for war. . . ." Evidence available quite openly in Russia, contained in Soviet literature, shows that already the Soviets have constructed enough mass-shelters in key strategic industrial areas to protect More than sixty million from nuclear attack. Bunkers have been provided for the civilian population in all main cities, including several which are the size of football fields. "My collection team." said the Major-General. "have identified grain-storage bunkers the size of several football fields on the perimeter of all main cities, guarded by the military -- the most elaborate of their kind in the world. We are observing the most extensive peace-time war preparations in recorded history. . ."

www.christadelphia.org...


continued....
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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and Russia recently announced that its constructing 5000 new bunkers near Moscow with the capability to hold 1000-2000 people.
______beforeitsnews/story/261/681/Russians_to_Rapidly_Build_5000_Bomb_Shelters_in_Moscow_by_2012.html
www.abovetopsecret.com...


as for russian psychotronic weaponry :
mindjustice.org...






You bioweaponry is all but useless for if you ever used a single one, your world and most likely the whole world would be destoryed in retailation.


Your retaliation will be a failure thanks to our underground cities and civil defence.call me when USA has bunkers like Yamantau mountain.



So let's talk conventional war,the U.S and it allie's would stomp out any threat convententionally, infact we could assume that the rest of the world(none U.S allies)


why so? when we can fight and win via bio,chemical ,thermonuclear and torsional weapons why conventional?



uses, terroristic/ no R.O.E tatics and WE would still win.


considering that terrorists don't have ebolapox,red mercury fusion devices and novichok prototype chemical weaponry,you would win.You are only capable of waging war against defenceless nations.



As for mila jovovich as my avatar ty again, ignorant russki,


seems like a testament to your education,yankistani.Not a wonder why your leaders call you stupid dumb useless eaters.
"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." Henry Kissinger, quoted by Bob Woodward in The Final Days, 1976

2012-2015 is the period when ww3 begins .We are prepared.

If you can understand,this will help
在未來的經濟崩潰後,你會在中國的清潔廁所,如果你是幸運的的,但如果不幸運,你會死在俄羅斯發布的超級武 器。
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posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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After the future economical collapse, you will be able in China's clean restroom, if you will be lucky, but if will be unlucky, you will be able to die the super weapon which issued in Russia.

I have translated your Chinese Insult for everyone to read,

You seem eager for the outbreak of the death of hundreds of millions of people.

Are you sane?



posted on Nov, 21 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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considering that half of my family was killed by NATO sponsored terrorists in the yugoslav civil war,do you think I care ? For me all NATO civilians are hostiles as most of you cheered the genocide that KLA and croats did on us.Why? simply because we are Serbian orthodoxy christians and the khazar overlords have been enemy of Russian orthodox christians for centuries.

and your translator is wrong. You are using babelfish.use yandex.ru search engine for translator or google for translator.

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