Let's kill the Pentagon Missile attack once and for all., page 8

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Yes, lets kill this stupid missile hitting the Pentagon theory once and for all.........

......Anyone who has ever been to the pentagon will understand both the video footage and the reason the plane is not scattered all over the law in big chunks.

The pentagon is a heavy duty super fortified hard concrete structure. It is VERY intimidating to look at. A plane is made of aluminum, a lightweight metal that does not hold up well under extreme heat and pressure and impact. Thus, a light weight craft of aluminum would accordion and crump[le, even parts vaporize, under the intense force and pressure of impact with the super hard bomb resistant concrete of the pentagon.

But I believe thousands of people, many experts, who witnessed the plane. They said it was a plane. All evidence Ive seen say it was a plane. It was a plane, period.

You know, this argument is sooo ludicrous! Think about! Since when do planes VAPORIZE and DISAPPEAR when they crash???!!! All this talk about the enormous heat blah blah blah. What....did flight 77 have some kind of super fuel that made it burn hotter so that it incinerated it into nothing? Because, that's what would have to be the case because OTHER plane wrecks DON'T VAPORIZE! GIVE ME ONE OTHER VAPORIZING EXAMPLE THAT'S EVER HAPPENED! I'm getting really pissed off about the stupidity about the terrific heat argument. And then, when people then ask, why other wrecks don't vaporize, we get the answer that, "oh, well THIS one vaporized because it hit the PEENNTAAGOON" What the hell? Seriously! So a concrete wall on impact makes the fire hotter and accounts for the plane to vaporize?? "Well, this is the first time anything has crashed like this" BS! That's not even close to a competent answer! And, even better is the fact that, despite your (and the gov's) arguments that the plane VAPORIZED, you are all cheery to point out those few pics of some debris inside the pentagon. PLUS, the plane that vaporized due to hitting a magical concrete wall (which is what accounts for the reason for the vaporizing heat) STILL managed to penetrate several rings!

A plane is made of aluminum, a lightweight metal that does not hold up well under extreme heat and pressure and impact. Thus, a light weight craft of aluminum would accordion and crump[le, even parts vaporize, under the intense force and pressure of impact with the super hard bomb resistant concrete of the pentagon.

Haha, the SAME plane that PUNCHED THROUGH LAYERSSSS!!!! So, let me get this straight. The plane vaporized and disappeared, except for just a couple pieces, that bust through several layers. But it vaporized. And it also tore through walls making holes only 7-8 ft in diameter. But it disinegrated. On the other hand it also pulverized reinforced concrete, but on the other hand it vapo...........

All you believers in the official story always ask us nonbelievers what is our problem, and why don't we just believe our government. Well I wanna know why YOU people think we SHOULD?! Is our gov immune to corruption or something?? I mean, look at the video feed, the piss poor skills of the supposed hi-jackers, the seized and unreleased video of all spots except the one, the lack of debris on the lawn or damage on the lawn (oh yeah, I forgot the plane vaporized and disappeared into the building

), Rumsfeld's slip about a missile, etc! My question is, why do you just believe the gov, especially in the face of all these blatant problems??!! Now, I would believe the gov if their story didn't have all these problems, but it does! So, I notice these problems, and am not foolish enough to ignore or deny them just because our perfect and almighty and all-explaining gov says something one way! Just read some history and you'll find out that OH YES, people in power are VERY capable and VERY willing to do EVIL things, EVEN in our great nation. The laws of human nature STILL apply to us just like all other places! And if we want to keep our democracy, we must constantly be all over the gov, and questioning it so that it doesn't get out of control! And some of you think that I WANT it to be this way? Well I'm INSULTED BY THAT! I must be some sick freak to you guys if I WANT this. First of all, if you ever knew me personally, you'd know that before 9/11, I'd never believed or been interested in any conspiracies, and I LOVED Bush and jumped for joy when he was elected. I was one of the first to believe the administrations and gov explanations until a couple years later, I notice the wealth of info that flies in its face! And I can ADMIT I was WRONG in believing the official story and thinking our gov could do no evil. Because the truth is more important to me than trying to protect my reputation of never being wrong, than my pride. By NO means, did I EVER want this to happen, especially like this!

Why was a plane not seen on the video footage?

Again, anyone who has been to the pentagon knows why.

The camera on the pentagon is designed for monitoring activity outside. Normal activity outside the pentagon includes people and vehicles. people and vehicles move MUCH slower than a plane. The camera at the pentagon was not designed to watch planes flying into it on the ground. It was designed to catch people and vehicles. Thus, the speed of the camera is considerably slower than one designed to film fast flying pbjects like jets. It was a camera at a guard post which monitors and admits people and vehicles into the premesis for parking. last time I checked, no known ground vehicles known to the public or driven in public travel 500 miles an hour.

the frame rate and refresh rate on the camera was simply not fast enough to catch something going 500 miules an hour. period.

So how does that explain the small size of the one thing we DO see? Is it supposed to make the object magically smaller, because it's a slower cam??? Why not release all the OTHERRRRRRR tapes???????? What an easy solution to this PROBLEM.

Pentagon employees on the inner rings were struck by the engine, which is harder than the body of an airplane. It was heavy and going at such a velocity ti was capable of punching through walls. Anyone who has ever seen aircraft engines up close and personal knows just how heavy duty those babies are.

Oh really, where's the engine??

........Oh, you mean this engine?????

Just like this one?????

Oh, ok............

(pics courtesy of Sauron who already posted these earlier in thread)

A plane hit the pentagon. Thousands of eyewitnesses on the ground saw a plane. Many of those witnesses either worked for the military or have in the past. I would say its safe to say, that many of them would know damn well the difference between a plane and a friggin missile.

I consider the testimony of thousands of eyewitnesses on the ground and such far better evidence and far more reliable than the idiotic insane ramblings of some Frenchman who was no where near the area, and probably never has been.

Since you want to bring up eyewitnesses, there were others who described a missile. There were others who said there was no way it could have been a 757. There were others who said their minds could not account of how the damage of the pentagon resulted from a 757. So who are we to believe??

AGAIN, LOOK AT A PIC OF A TOMAHAWK, OR SIMILAR MISSILES. THEY LOOK LIKE PLANES. ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE ALREADY HEARING ABOUT PLANES AT THE WTC. THERE MINDS WERE ALREADY OCCUPIED WITH INFO ABOUT PLANES. THE OBJECT WAS MOVING FAST AND LOUD OVERHEAD. IT'S NOT HARD TO IMAGINE WHY MANY WOULD SAY IT WAS A PLANE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE GOV ANNOUNCING THAT IT WAS.

Oh yeah, did Rumsfeld slip about a missile.......? I think he did.

Don't forget the air traffic controllers who monitored the planes who described military type maneuvers, of which they were a bit suprised and confused.

I have no doubt a plane hit the pentagon. My question is not what hit the pentagon, I already know: flight 77 and its doomed passengers and crew. My doubts are focused on why flight 77 was allowed to go wayward for 40 minutes after 2 planes hit the WTC with no response from Washington, no jets to pursue it, no massive securityu measures taken in the capitol.

A plane was flying erratically and change course towards the capitol for 40 minutes after two confirmed terrorists attacks. yet the city wasnt even alerted till 5 minutes before it hit. That in itself is enough to raise serious questions and eyebrows.

I'm encouraged to see that you're not completely trusting then. And that you see at least some of the problems of the whole scenario.

I rest my case.

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