Mark13:
31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown
32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Did it ever occur to you all that what the Father knows is that heaven and earth wont actually pass away because they are like a snare/trap by the Father?

Luke 21:
34 “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.

And get this... Jesus didn't say the Father will remove heaven and earth, no, he just said it will pass away as if not even by the Father. Makes you think, huh?

Just something to think about. If you ask me, Jesus' words been passed away, which is also of course what must have been known by the Father.

O, and what better way to make a trap/snare. Yep, with heaven and earth being it in that they won't pass away. Nothing just passes away. Be a careful reader to know.

The only way out heaven and earth is by death or rapture. Trust me. I've been raptured from inside this physical body twice before and then put back in each case. I figure third is a charm. And yep, my body was doing things on its own when I wasn't occupying it. And where I went I dont know because all I know is when I'd get back I have no obseravtion memory. It was written that the kingdom come not with observation in Luke 17. I trust in that peice written. I trust that it is true. Fist time I got raptured was on a superbowl sunday at half time. Second time was noticed when I was being transported by people to another place.

So what does it mean when his words shall indeed pass away? It means anything can happen now. And I mean anything not even written in any book. Should be exciting to find out, but be better if I just get raptured for good if I have a third time to be.

You are referring about the word of man, yes? The word of man, which has been re-edited and re-translated many times over, and is called the bible?

It means anything can happen now. And I mean anything not even written in any book.

Welcome back to reality.

The only way out heaven and earth is by death or rapture. Trust me. I've been raptured from inside this physical body twice before and then put back in each case. I figure third is a charm. And yep, my body was doing things on its own when I wasn't occupying it. And where I went I dont know because all I know is when I'd get back I have no obseravtion memory. It was written that the kingdom come not with observation in Luke 17. I trust in that peice written. I trust that it is true. Fist time I got raptured was on a superbowl sunday at half time. Second time was noticed when I was being transported by people to another place.

So what does it mean when his words shall indeed pass away? It means anything can happen now. And I mean anything not even written in any book. Should be exciting to find out, but be better if I just get raptured for good if I have a third time to be.

I'm not a religious person, so I don't follow the bible much, and I don't know how I feel about this "rapture" thingy, but please expand on you being raptured twice and put back.

Are you saying your soul went somewhere else? And your body kept working? Was there another soul working it?
How did you get put back? Did you get to observe your body functioning without you? Were you hospitalized as a result? Was it a near death experience? Did you see anything while you were away from your body????
So many questions.......

I think we have a soul (our connection to the source of all), and spirit (which animates us, makes us function properly), and our physical body.

As far as things happening not yet written about, I am a firm believer in the fact that we know nothing in the grand scheme of things. Which is why I consider myself a pantheistic agnostic......
Anything is possible.

Originally posted by snowspirit

The only way out heaven and earth is by death or rapture. Trust me. I've been raptured from inside this physical body twice before and then put back in each case. I figure third is a charm. And yep, my body was doing things on its own when I wasn't occupying it. And where I went I dont know because all I know is when I'd get back I have no obseravtion memory. It was written that the kingdom come not with observation in Luke 17. I trust in that peice written. I trust that it is true. Fist time I got raptured was on a superbowl sunday at half time. Second time was noticed when I was being transported by people to another place.

So what does it mean when his words shall indeed pass away? It means anything can happen now. And I mean anything not even written in any book. Should be exciting to find out, but be better if I just get raptured for good if I have a third time to be.

I'm not a religious person, so I don't follow the bible much, and I don't know how I feel about this "rapture" thingy, but please expand on you being raptured twice and put back.

Are you saying your soul went somewhere else? And your body kept working? Was there another soul working it?
How did you get put back? Did you get to observe your body functioning without you? Were you hospitalized as a result? Was it a near death experience? Did you see anything while you were away from your body????
So many questions.......

I think we have a soul (our connection to the source of all), and spirit (which animates us, makes us function properly), and our physical body.

As far as things happening not yet written about, I am a firm believer in the fact that we know nothing in the grand scheme of things. Which is why I consider myself a pantheistic agnostic......
Anything is possible.

edit on 12-11-2011 by snowspirit because: I was trapped in a quote box, I don't like being in boxes

Better way to explain it in short is to listen to a song called Mr. Roboto by the Stix. The difference is that I've realized that some souls are not even alive. Yep, smart computerized bots, if you will, is what I've realized took over my physical body's soul department. This is why the term "as lightning" is used, concerning the Son of man written about in Matthew 24. As lightning is another way at saying something electronic-like is being used. This explains how the physical body can work as if on its own once a living soul is gone out of it like by a rapture.

I observed my body up and in the middle of something times I got put back. I had to quickly adjust BIG TIME the second time I got put back right in the middle of something going on.

My fav part in that Stix song is the thank you part, by the way.

Originally posted by WarJohn

It's like the Father knows Jesus told a fib

So you believe Lord Jesus Christ told a fib and your let me guess .... you are ... Heavenly Fathers Chosen Elect ... The ONLY one?