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Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by acmpnsfal
Have you attended a protest? If you have then you probably met people from all over the political spectrum. OWS is NON PARTISAN. You will find a mixed number of liberal and conservatives.
Op asked not to turn this into a slug fest,so I will be brief.
Wrong.
OWS is not apolitical. I have been to an OWS protest. Peaceful? Yes. . To many recall republican Governor signs to even think that. To many Union members to think it. Mixed in with the Liberals and Conservatives were Socialists,Marxists,Communists,Anarchists.
Those six things that OWS is saying it has accomplished,the Tea Party before them did. Many people have wakened up since 9/11. I see nothing truly accomplished.edit on 6-11-2011 by sonnny1 because: fix
So you saw signs that said "embrace socialism" or something like that? I have a hard time believing that. The Ron Paul signs, I've seen plenty of, but not a single socialism sign at occupy kc. But I do know that there have been some socialists seen in some occupy marches endorsing it, however like I've said many times, the goals of the majority of the protesters is not to install a socialist government.
Im sorry Pac,Partisan is what I meant to say. I Will fix it... Apolitical though? No way. Their wasn't many Ron Paul signs,a few at my rally,but not many.....Yes I actually did ask a bunch. It wasnt too different then a Tea Party Rally,except you didnt have to ask what someones view was when they had a I am a socialist sign,or Recall the Governor signs.
I can't argue with you there, lots of people talk about jobs where I'm at. But can you blame them? Millions of people can't find jobs, so I can see how that would be a concern about people who have lost their homes or who can barely feed their kids. I think it's safe to say that almost everybody there is against the corruption in our government, and want to get rid of that.
I found 3 like minded individuals. I actually asked questions like "what do you plan to accomplish?" How can we change this? Most wanted JOBS. That was what I heard the most.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by sonnny1
You have to admit, the bank tranfer/switch to credit union tactic was something wholly OWS and is looking to have been effective.
There have been 650,000 new credit union accounts opened in the last month.
There were only 600,000 credit union accounts opened in the entire year of 2010.
Divided evenly that means 50,000 accounts per month were opened in 2010.
So in the last month 600,000 more accounts were opened than in the same month last year.
That means something. That is huge.
Originally posted by TupacShakur
You said "most" wanted jobs, so that means 2 of the 3 you talked to. I'm curious, what did the other person say? And when you say "like minded", what specifically do you mean by that?edit on 6-11-2011 by TupacShakur because:
1.) This movement has only made me feel even more alone. I am not rich, nowhere near rich, but I certainly will not ever agree that capitalism is the source of everybody's problem, especially since capitalism does not exist and has not ever since I have been born and long before that. The grossly regulated market stupidly called a "free" market is not anything near capitalism, but this increasingly arrogant "movement" insists that I am no longer alone.
I'm sorry to hear that. At occupy kc, every conversation yields the mutual agreement that our government has been corruped. This isn't just with the dozens of protesters I've discussed this with, but the majority of the pedestrians/passerby's that I speak to as well. Jobs are definitely something that people would like to see popping up, but.....no s*** lol.
Nope Pac,20-25 people wanted Jobs. I talked to about that many as we marched. Most were inner city youth. The like minded folks actually had Ron Paul placards,and I find that to be like minded. I had no sign,but tended to stay away from those with the recall signs. Peaceful,but I sure as hell wasn't there to agitate,more to observe. Yeah,folks are angry,and the inner city youth have NO chance at getting jobs. None. I asked a couple of 20 somethings if they ever hear of Ron Paul,Big NO to that.......
Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
See while you've BEEN TO one, I've BEEN A PART OF one. I've actively participated in Occupy Atlanta daily, so I would think I have a better grasp on the dynamic than you would.
Originally posted by TupacShakur
So are you telling me that out of those 20-25 people, not a single one of them mentioned corruption? Nobody talked about the banker bailout, and the business practices that wrecked the economy? No mention of the Federal Reseve? Just "jobs jobs jobs"?
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by sonnny1
Well.. I hope you educated them on about RP. That is what some of the OWS movements are missing. Reasonable conservatives sharing their point of view. It is a bipartisan/no partisan movement. The MSM is just doing it's best to keep conservatives from joining, so you get a lot of left and no right. Then the right sees that and thinks it's engineered that way on purpose so their absence extends.
MSM still has that strangle hold on some of America.
With unemployment being 20-23%, I am not really suprised that many of them talked about jobs. And would you say that corruption was discussed as much as, less than, or more than jobs?
Not one thing about the Fed.......Seriously. Corruption yes,but that's a give in. You have to understand the inner city. Unemployment is like 20-23% Even worse for the youth. I wanted to see what the talk was from their point of view. Being mixed,I can ask questions that some might not want to,without the fear of offending. Jobs Pac,they are begging for them.
Originally posted by TupacShakur
With unemployment being 20-23%, I am not really suprised that many of them talked about jobs. And would you say that corruption was discussed as much as, less than, or more than jobs?
I think people talk about the Fed more at occupy kc because we're camped directly across from it on the other side of the street