'Anonymous' Hacking Group Takes Down 40 Child Porn Sites, 'Darknet,' Exposes Over 1500 Users

reply to post by Pirateofpsychonautics


I'll second that. These people are less than human. They failed at the game of humanity a long time ago and don't deserve to be here with the rest of us. Castration might be an option, but im a firm beliver in cowboy logic. If you wrong someone like that you don't deserve to live, because there is no way to reform someone so evil. Death is really the only option. I say let the parents of the children do what they will with them, its just as good as the deth penalty.

Since law enforcement in this country is too busy taking down websites that stream tv or movies (god forbid someone watches House for free), it's good to see that there's at least someone out there with their priorities in order.

The fed could take a hint.

--Kit.

reply to post by JAY1980

I'll second that. These people are less than human. They failed at the game of humanity a long time ago and don't deserve to be here with the rest of us. Castrationp> might be an option, but im a firm beliver in cowboy logic. If you wrong someone like that you don't deserve to live, because there is no way to reform someone so evil. Death is really the only option. I say let the parents of the children do what they will with them, its just as good as the deth penalty.

While I might be inclined to agree with you about these people being less than human (I find many people to be lacking in sentience, these days - for a number of reasons); they do still have a right to due process of law.

I am all for the death penalty and the practicality of simply eliminating a person (or exile) from society rather than keeping them around on tax dollars when they have almost zero chance of reform through imprisonment. Honestly, I think we should completely overhaul the penal system to focus more on rehab for first offenders and exile/execution for chronic or pathological offenders.

Still - due process.

Yeah - if a guy is raping someone in the street - I'll bust him until he offers no resistance (which may be after he's dead - depending on the circumstances); but you can't do that to someone accused of a crime. When you start doing that, you're no better than the Third Reich or various supremacist mentalities that rationalize another person's inferiority based on racial/ethnic backgrounds.

Which leads me to another point: Many people are simply unaware of their own prejudices and their own supremacist tendencies. I'm among the top performing people when it comes to metrics of intelligence - I'm often frustrated and infuriated by the lack of intelligence displayed by other people and have stated, before, that I find many people to be less than human.

Makes me an intellectual supremacist. You believe these people are less than human because of some act they have done - a moral supremacist. It's part of human nature and psychology to do this - to take things we simply cannot comprehend and place them in the box of: "not one of us." It is dangerous when you don't realize you do it, and/or make no efforts to keep that mentality in check.

The mob mentality here is scary.

YES I disagree with what these people do, but who am I to say? And who are you all to say they should be killed?

What if they feel the same way about killing people who drink alcohol, drive cars, or smoke cigarettes? Would mob justice be ok with you then? You all sound like the idiots who want to kill someone for getting an abortion, which would make them worse then the abort-er.

playing devils advocate here, what if these kids enjoyed this? I mean yea the real young ones would obviously have no idea what was going on but I can remember when I wasnt even a teenager yet I was already wanting to have sex, and yes im a guy but there were plenty of girls in my MIDDLE school who dropped out because they got pregnant so they obviously think about it too.

Just because our laws say you have to be 18 for sex and try to impose their religious morals on you doesnt make them correct (I could give a bunch of examples of this), many other countries the age is way younger, and females start their period at around 9-11 years old for a reason....people used to not live that long so they had to reproduce ASAP to keep population going.

I also agree with some other posters, prohibition doesnt work, and even though I hate for this stuff to be out there who am I to tell people what to do, theres probably some sick dudes out there who will act on their urges now that they cant just go online and satisfy themselves with some pictures.

So lets all just relax, take a deep breath, and enjoy the small victory anon has achieved.

castration seems like the only option for people like that.

Sometimes i question the Anonymous and there motivations, for this however i give them a pass,
Hacking sony isnt what Anonymous should be doing nor stealing people's credit card information

When I was 7 I snuck into my neighbors garage and found a playboy with Vanna White - she should be executed for appearing in a magazine that I could find.

When I found it I didnt freak out I knew exactly what I was looking at but if you ask most parents today I was irrevocably scared and require therapy.

People will swear up and down that I couldn't possibly understand it and must be protected from it at all costs when the truth is these people are what really scared me, the kind that when I fell made far more drama in my life than the actual pain.

And now as I have grown up it's these same type of people that have convinced themselves that child pornography is rape - rapes is forced, to even compare a picture to rape is disgusting and these are the people that need to get a grip not there children.

Most of what is out there is exploration of legally protected minors and I agree that there is laws and they should be enforced. But the difference between a 17 year old girl and a 18 year old girl is what someone else decided for them. There choice to take pictures of themselves is no longer there own. If that sounds like rape it is. And some people have gone way off track and stop realizing the difference between forced and consensual many of them in this thread.

To even suggest that someone who looks at a picture should die makes me realize how sick supposedly moral people really are. Actually you are worse rapist only injure you want to murder.

reply to post by redstorm


If it helps the comments by some about killing pedofiles runs contray to arguments made in other threads where they demand the government recognize their rights and follow due process.

Apparently to some, the law and due process is liquidlike, which is to say it should only apply when it affects them, and as far as anyone else goes, they are on their own.

Kind of like the 3 muskateers meets The emperor from Star Wars....

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Pirateofpsychonautics

 

My AR15 is hungry.

Pedophiles would make great target practice.

edit on 25-10-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

Okay... so pedophilia is bad, murder is good. Got it.

Pedophiles should be stopped at all costs, but let's not forget that the vast majority of sexual predators were victims of sexual abuse, largely as children. People aren't born as monsters, they are created by monsters. Protect children for the children's sakes, don't kill people for revenge's sake. That makes you a monster.

reply to post by projectvxn

I am confused. Even though this is a good thing, exposing immoral behavior, I don't understand how this connects to corrupt corporations? Is Anonymous just house cleaning? Other words, they are taking personal responsibility by filtering out these disgusting people?

double standard

they fight for freedom of speech but then deny it to those who disagree with them


Basically the Anonymous message has become "agree with us, and only us, or suffer our consequences"


I no longer support Anonymous or its message because of their hipocrisy

Can someone hack them and release a list of their names?

Originally posted by Aim64C
I am all for the death penalty and the practicality of simply eliminating a person (or exile) from society rather than keeping them around on tax dollars when they have almost zero chance of reform through imprisonment. Honestly, I think we should completely overhaul the penal system to focus more on rehab for first offenders and exile/execution for chronic or pathological offenders.

Still - due process.

Yes due process is in order and all the people making death threats need to tone it down a bit.

As far as I can tell, a fair numbers of the producers, distributors, and consumers of child pornography are the children themselves. Anybody ever hear of "sexting"? Some kids have been threatened with 30 years in prison for taking naked pictures of themselves with their phone and sending it to a friend (aka distribution of child pornography, punishable by 30 years)/

This is anecdotal, but it's one example of why we need to apply due process, about a 15 year old kid who distributed child porn on 4chan:

Feds Raid Boy's Home Over 4chan Child Porn Post

federal agents this month raided the home of a 15-year-old California boy who uploaded a single image of child pornography to the outlaw web site, whose administrators sparked the criminal probe,...

The resulting federal investigation led DHS agents to Fresno, where they used a battering ram on Glover’s front door during the early-morning raid. Glover, who said he was briefly handcuffed when agents came through his door, said that he was “outraged that they came with all that manpower” over a “single post.” A single parent, Glover acknowledged that he was unaware of his son’s online activities. “These kids have access to more than they should,” he said.

Glover described his son as a good student who enjoys playing “Call of Duty” and is a fan of the Comedy Central show “Tosh.0.” He said that DHS agents extensively questioned his son about his activities on 4chan, a site Glover said he had never heard of until federal agents raided his home.

I don't know if that 15 year old should go to jail or not, he certainly needs some kind of punishment, but whatever it is needs to be doled out through due process.

After reading some of the posts in this thread I'd half expect some vigilantes to gun down the owner of that house who had absolutely no idea what his son was even doing. Or gun down the boy. Or both.

Let's punish the people responsible but let's be sane and rational about it and as Aim64 said, due process. This example highlights the need for that to me.

If that was my boy, he'd be grounded for at least 6 months, if he didn't end up in prison that is. But I wouldn't expect all you vigilantes in here to kill him.

For those of you who don't know, that site where he uploaded the image, 4chan, is sort of the home of anonymous, as I understand it. And it was the site who turned him in to authorities half a year ago.

reply to post by redstorm


Well for starters no law enforcement and their ilk dont do their own thing. They actually are not only bound by the same laws as everyone else, when it comes to investigations that are bound by laws that dont cover others, because those laws protect the individuals.

Namely getting that pesky probable cause to get search and or arrest warrants while processing evidence that will be challenged from start to finish by the defense, nitpicking any errorss they can find in order to get the chain of custody broken / find the ability to get the evidence suppresed.

If evidence gets supressed, and the evidence is what was used to fiel the charges, the charges will be tossed. If that occurs in the trial (witness sworn in or jury seated) jeoprady is attached meaning the perosn gets away scott free.

So while I understand the irritation of people when it comes to law enforcement, people need a better understanding of it before they try to blame it. In addition to blaming law enforcement for punishment, since we have nothing to do with it.

My point being though is people are concerned about their rights, and no one elses. Its hypocritical to claim the moral high ground while arguing the government is evil when they advocate the very thing they hate about the government.

reply to post by Maybeboo


What I was getting at was the story didn't make sense.
Saying that a message popped up (left that out originally and just said the kid came to you with the info as if in guilt) clarifies a little better.

It just didn't make sense to me because I don't know why a kid that age would know how to search of such a thing and why they would come upset that it was wrong without anything to change their opinion but their own sudden awareness.

A page warning popping up kind of clarifies, but not completely.
I was just saying.. it was a strange bit of information.

reply to post by neo96
Perhaps law enforcement don't have the manpower to takle these offences on a large scale. Not to mention getting through the red tape (collection and documentation of evidence) before any action may be taken.

That said, I take my hat off to Anonymous in fighting this cause...renewed respect to them.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a surge of new members joining Anonymous.

reply to post by redstorm


No.. sorry your example still falls way short.
I don't really need to explain why, but it has to less to do with this being a group of people and more to do with them breaking the law, and we aren't in a fascist country. If they are taken in they will get their day in court.

So still your reply was a big waste of words.