OWS: A rally against common sense from the “Mommy told me I’m special generation”, page 4

reply to post by Ultraman2011

---

Dude.. what are you talking about?

The UK riots had nothing to do with OWS. Like absolutely nothing.
Also I don't see anyone getting off the hook at all? Derek Jeter? Tom Brady? Tim Robbins?
I wish there was a "missed the point" forum mods could move threads like this to.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by TheWalkingFox

---

Yes.
They either succeed or fail based on their own merits. If one does better in school than the other, should we manipulate the school system so it's "equal"?

I worked at a shelter for women and children for three years as a crisis counselor. It took some of the women a while to become self sufficient. Once they began to see their accomplishments, there was no holding them back from tackling the outside world.
What they had to overcome most of all was the fact that if they wanted to survive, it was up to them to make it happen.
The only thing given to them was food/foodstamps, temporary cash from the government, second hand clothes, counseling, limited rides to doctor and school appointments, and temporary housing (at the shelter for 6 to 8 weeks). They had to find their own transportation when searching for employment and when employed.

It was difficult for them and there were many tears of frustration but the majority of the women did what had to be done for the sake of their children.
Those precious women and children didn't have time to point fingers at the government, the well-to-do, or even their estranged spouses. Many were too busy focusing on their next step forward and could care less what their neighbor had.
What you say is true.

They either succeed or fail based on their own merits.

I swell with pride when I think of how far many of women went with practically nothing in the beginning.

reply to post by Ultraman2011

---

Supposedly the protests are against a small elite that are making too much money. Except of course the exceptions (Al Gore, George Soros, John Kerry, and Tim Robbins). They are not a problem. I guess Derek Jeter and Tom Brady are off the hook also

did your anus tell you that? Because it sure smells and sounds like it. any moron with 2 seconds can easily find out what OWS is ACTUALLY about without even leaving this forum, so why are you guys intent on spreading this none sense?

IWs doesn't want your money. They don't want a free ride. they don't have a problem with the "rich"

the have a problem with the fact that the entire economic system is skewed in their favor allowing them tax breaks and loop holes to the point and multibillion dollar corporations get tax REFUNDS from the government. The rest of us have to pay our share, but those making the most, with the least "need" pay next to nothing, and at times, end up putting your tax dollars in their pockets.

OWS is about the fact that the 99% of the population ISN'T being served by their government.

How many people do you know that were FOR the bank bailouts, the bailouts that while taking YOUR hard earned cash to save the "banks" from the repercussions of years of fraud, didn't fix the economy at all, in fact it made it worse.

But yeah, it's all a bunch of spoiled kids that want to take without giving, yup, way to generalize. i saw that same stupid hippy kid on youtube. He isn't speaking for anyone but himself.

no, we can't use fringe radical elements of the tea party as an example, no, we can't use fringe radical elements of the religious right as an example, no, that's generalization and unfair.

but we sure can use some half literate idiot (a product of YOUR governments FAILURE to provide adequate education to EVERYONE EQUALLY) to smear millions if not more people

what about the marines and us army members taking part? Oh, I forgot, they are selfish lazy bums.
What about the workers unions? Unions are TEH SATANZ
What about the doctors and nurses? Ah yes, lazy entitlement complexes.

Yes, there are morons out there for something to do, this happens with any event of this type.

So how is this against common sense?

How is this scenario common sense:

The poorest people pay the most taxes and have the most IRS audits
The richest people and corporations pay next to nothing or in fact get returns of millions of dollars or more (during the Bush darkages they actually had to create a new tax return form for a return of a million or more dollars)
the poorest people have a higher chance of going to jail for a crime that a rich person would walk free from
the poorest people have the least accessible medical care out of anyone in America

How about that story about the CEO who stole millions through fraud and got off and the man who stole 100$ and returned it and got LIFE in prison.

how is THAT common sense?

and no, i don't care how far your head is wedged up your own behind, you can not claim all of these people are welfare queens and lazy jobless students (thanks to your government looking out for the banks instead of the people, there are no jobs)

Now, a good source of information told me once how to deal with people like you.

don't you want to make more money? don't you want the government to keep their dirty hands out of your wallet?

Than make the 1% and the corporations pay their fair share, no more, no less, and the problem is solved.

Is this what ATS is reduced to? A place where people with no guts complain about those who've gotten out to take a stand?

Yes, it clearly is. When fat lazy people can deride the military who is fighting to protect THEIR rights as lazy morons because they want the government to work for and by the people, well, it just shows you how far gone we are.

And the best part is, 99% of these guys aren't in the "1%" they have been convinced, brainwashed if you will, into thinking someday they MIGHT be and they don't want to do anything to risk their invite to the party. And if the changes the majority of these OWS'ers want are implemented it would benefit the people here calling them morons too.

Now who exactly is the moron?

reply to post by nenothtu

---

ErtaiNaGia
the Economic Sovereignty of the Planet Earth,

What does this phrase even mean?

To be Economically and Financially Sovereign, means that you don't RENT your currency *AT INTEREST* from a bank... but instead print your currency without debt.

So, when I say that they are attacking the economic Sovereignty of the planet earth, what I MEAN, is that they want us to pay a tax on the privilege of having currency.

Every single Dollar Bill in circulation is an OPEN LOAN from the Banks, that we not only have to pay back, but with interest.

And I think you would be aware that if we paid back the principle, there would be no money left to service the debt.

You see what I mean now?

reply to post by Ultraman2011

---

OP, I am not sure if I should look at this as sarcasm or what. I am not for the OWS because it does not educate about the real truth. HJR-192 of June 5, 1933. The "U.S." government was bankrupt then, or so it was claimed to get the ball rolling. HOW.. how can ANY government ban the possession of property such as a tangible bartering tool like gold?

Someone please explain that to me. Man created government, we did not do so to infringe on our posterity or sovereignty.......or did we................. unknowingly?

Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine, read them and learn a lot.

Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by TheWalkingFox

---

That was just... brutal.

Thank You.

Teach me, oh sifu.

I have always preferred the Senpai/Kohai relationship, to be honest...

And here is the First Lesson:

"The Truth is not the Opposite of the Lie; Comprehension is the Opposite of the Lie."

Meditate upon this wisdom.

edit on 24-10-2011 by ErtaiNaGia because: (no reason given)

That's sort of a nice idea. I don't especially care for dichotomies of opposites. But you inspired me to think of it this way: Comprehension is the cure for the lie and a necessary condition for grasping the truth. Truth is more than a pithy statement,

reply to post by ErtaiNaGia

---

Well done ! Although I'm still new to this site, I've seen so many people put the cart before the horse, expressing their personal opinion and then finding snippets of news here and there to "prove " their point. Your post was well received on this end.

Thanks for standing up to ....what I consider.... the number 1 problem here: Too many people are more concerned with promoting their own opinions than actually discovering the truth. To those people, I say, We're all ignorant about one thing or another. Consider growing your opinion. It's shouldn't be cast in concrete. It's a part of you, and therefore a living, growing thing.

It's not a sign of weakness to change your view on things. Change in the world is what powers those opinions to continue to evolve and, subsequently, to change the world. Perception...our conscious view of things...is a dynamic, ever-changing phenomenon. It's not a fortress...it's a garden.

reply to post by Ultraman2011

---

booo

As far as your fossil fuel Idea, its total bull. The elite have been hiding alternative energy sources from us for years, those need to be explored and encouraged if we are ever going to make it as a people. Drilling in Alaska is not the answer.

UN Proposes Tax On Americans for 3rd world countries
  Posted 18 days ago with 28 member flags

Armed bystander stops stabbing outside school
  Posted 12 days ago with 27 member flags

Update...Canada Couple Wins Right To Grow Vegetables On Front Lawn...Case Closed!
  Posted 16 days ago with 25 member flags

We argue about Healthcare, meanwhile, the Elephant laughs (pls read!)
  Posted 13 days ago with 25 member flags

A new country in North America? What do Canadians and Americans make of this?
  Posted 9 days ago with 22 member flags

" Climate Change Is Not A Hoax", says Obama!!??
  Posted 4 days ago with 21 member flags

Former Arizona Sheriff Mack, ‘Gun Control Against the Law’
  Posted 13 days ago with 12 member flags

Limiting Freedom & It\'s Effects On Society
  Posted 17 days ago with 11 member flags

Newest topics, updated in real-time:

Newest topics getting flags, in real-time:

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time: