Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
reply to post by nightbringr

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I almost starred you because I agreed with everything you said up untill you said, the protestors will be lynching people next. You and I both know that isn't going to happen, why post extreme and unlikely scenarios?

Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
reply to post by nightbringr

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I almost starred you because I agreed with everything you said up untill you said, the protestors will be lynching people next. You and I both know that isn't going to happen, why post extreme and unlikely scenarios?

OWS: A rally against common sense from the “Mommy told me I’m special generation”

Supposedly the protests are against a small elite that are making too much money. Except of course the exceptions (Al Gore, George Soros, John Kerry, and Tim Robbins). They are not a problem. I guess Derek Jeter and Tom Brady are off the hook also.

As are the goons who smashed things in the UK and took thinks that were not theirs. They are just acting out their frustrations. And, as long as it’s not your property or money being taken, well it okay.

In reality, Westerners are not complaining about having food, shelter, clean water or a reasonable expectation to health care. These are things that people throughout history would have rioted for, and have rioted for.

At the turn of the century, you were lucky to live past age 60 or so, and you didn’t even dream about retiring at age 55 or 60.

The reality is that most Western governments are near bankruptcy and have resorted to all sorts of schemes and methods to keep the boat afloat, Housing is not longer a good investment, money cannot be saved in any reasonable fashion—with near zero interest rates, and the Middle Class are the ones that have been hit the hardest. Not the youth-you didn’t have much to loose to begin with, and not the poor for the same reasons.

The “real” solution to the problem is to: rely on government less, start once again producing our own stuff with a real economy, and start using Nuclear power, drilling in Alaska, and building the pipeline from Alberta into the US. We also have to stop giving fake Solar, wind and electric car companies’ money. If you can’t make it without massive subsidies from government, you have a problem.

For those of you who think this is wrong; where do you think you’ve been sending your money for the last 30 years? You have supported a trillion dollar transfer of wealth from North America to tin plated dictators in the Middle East and South America. They don’t have restrictions, and you do. They have benefited, and you have lost. Andm as much as some of you love to admire them, they have sqandered the money more so that most Western Nations.

We also need to re evaluate the concept taught in every business school ;( Maximize Shareholders value-MSV), as the mantra of business. And, perhaps regulate, de-couple and de centralize certain institutions on Wall Street.

You also don’t have any reasonable solutions. I don’t have a lot of time for someone who flies in a plane run on fossil fuels, drives in a car burning fossil fuels, and goes home to a gas powered house, after lecturing me on ruining the environment. You should go hang with Gore in his energy intensive house that uses 10 x the power of most people in his state.

Otherwise, we will become (maybe too late?) A wimpy Nation that goes around looking from someone to blame. In the meantime, nothing is being done that is going to make a difference. Let’s get back into the real world.

You response made me laugh.

For starters.....

1) Alternative energy is profitable? Where so? How? show me? At this point in time, it is only viable with massive infusions of taxpayers capital.

2) What Law are your referring to in regards to MSV?

3) We have revolutions and protest to thank for the fact that welfare recipients in the US are over weight,and can play video games while talking on their iphones?I missed the last couple of revolutions in the US apparently. I'd rather be living in the US than 85% of the rest of the world.

4) The OWL group is heavily influenced by environmentalist. To deny this is dishonest.

As they are heavily influenced by Marxist.

The damage the enviros do is that they have not solutions to the problems.

They want to stop using fossil fuels, but do not have a viable alternative

It's easy to complain about things like this

5) Tyrants to thank? Don't think I said this. The economic system of the US worked well until very recently.

Their is a reason the US has some of the highest quality medical advancements in the world, as opposed to most other countries. It's precisely because the "Tyrants" as you call them, had the ability to make money, invest in R&D and operate in a free market environment.

Again, we need to curtail, and decouple certain things on Wall Street, but that is a far step from dismantling the system.

6) Having no future is a blessing? Don't think I said that.

But, making sweeping generalizations about business in general and trying to eat the rich , is not going to solve much of anything.

Many of the people that are heavily in debt, were not forced to buy houses they could not afford, or take out credit cards they could not pay for.

They had a lack of self control and are now paying for it.

It's a bit of leap of faith to imply,as you do, that banks, the military and the oil companies are all working together for some sort of grand plan.

ErtaiNaGia
You seem to forget the constant Trillion dollar wars that we have been fighting, so that Weapon Manufacturers can turn a profit.... so that Oil companies can gain larger reserves of Petrochemicals, and so that the Global banking cartel can keep and expand its monopoly on the issuance (and subsequent loaning out) of all the money in the world.

Politicians are just as likely to play the race or poverty, or economic card, if they think they can get votes.

That was just... brutal.

Teach me, oh sifu.