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Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by Shirak
Who is accountable then? Who decides what the funds are being used for? Many of us would like to know who is running the show.
Originally posted by AzureSky
Im not surprised they want paperwork
They need to keep track of said finances.
But yeah, i think saving the money for things they need should be top priority (as winter is coming), so they'll need lots of winter stuff coming soon, doubt 500,000 would even cover all the winter gear 300+ people need
Tea Party
Astroturf
Every event covered by the media.
Advertised beforehand by FOX News.
Participants mock the sick and the poor.
Anti union, anti poor, racist, bigoted, xenophobic.
Funded by the Koch Brothers.
People appear with assault rifles, shout and spit at members of Congress - Police take no notice.
This is what fascism looks like.
Benefits the 1%
Occupy Wall Street
Grassroots
Movement Media ignores occupation for over a month, then ridicules them.
Participants provide free food, basic health services and emotional support to everyone present.
Strives for inclusion and world wide participation.
Avoids leaders, consensus of the general assembly.
People show up unarmed, committed to non-violence, and get maced and beaten by Police.
This is what Democracy looks like.
Benefits the 99%
Originally posted by popsmayhem
Originally posted by Kali74
It's growing pains. Wipe your chins from salivating, it's gross.
Of course this is the spin NYP is putting on it, same as the poop issue and that is what it amounts to, poop.
It's been a topic of discussion among organizers for over a week. They are not keeping it, they are asking what should be done with it.
There is no irony here, it has been said all along that this Movement was not about hating money or hating capitalism or hating rich people. It has been about, all along, the corrupt policies, the bailouts, the jobs etc...
So naive, why are they not showing ALL TRANSACTIONS?
(they must be hiding something)
This should be posted!!
Every dime!!
Where that MONEY came from,
Where that MONEY went!!!!
No they took this money and have pocketed it for some nice new .
I DEMAND TRANSPARENCY OWP!!!
edit on 23-10-2011 by popsmayhem because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Shirak
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Well, look at that. Human nature rears its ugly head yet again. I have heard that there is an inner circle at OWS, a section where only a select few are allowed to enter. (don't have a source for that, just something I remember reading at one point) I know some want socialism, an ideal state where everyone is looked after and everyone has the same - but this simply does not work. You will still have a select few fat cats lining their pockets.
edit on 23-10-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)edit on Sun Oct 23 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: censors and ex tags
Mate you are missing something which makes this conclusion skewed.
When people donate to a non profit those taking cash must be held accountable for their spending.
The paperwork is to show accountability. Its what would stop said person from paying off their mortgage with the money. This guy comes across as a spoilt brat. Granted he says he has provided money to the movement which is great but now he is making headlines talking about how selfish those wh have put their hands up to be accountable are.
Originally posted by ChesterJohn
Originally posted by Shirak
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Well, look at that. Human nature rears its ugly head yet again. I have heard that there is an inner circle at OWS, a section where only a select few are allowed to enter. (don't have a source for that, just something I remember reading at one point) I know some want socialism, an ideal state where everyone is looked after and everyone has the same - but this simply does not work. You will still have a select few fat cats lining their pockets.
edit on 23-10-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)edit on Sun Oct 23 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: censors and ex tags
Mate you are missing something which makes this conclusion skewed.
When people donate to a non profit those taking cash must be held accountable for their spending.
The paperwork is to show accountability. Its what would stop said person from paying off their mortgage with the money. This guy comes across as a spoilt brat. Granted he says he has provided money to the movement which is great but now he is making headlines talking about how selfish those wh have put their hands up to be accountable are.
Unless they applied for Non-prof status in advanced it would not had been approved in 4 weeks time. If they do have it they applied for it last year which means it was a planned event and there goes the grass roots claim.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by Shirak
Double speak and simply dodging the question Who is running the show.....who decides who gets what. I know it isn't some crazy free for all - someone is making the decisions. All I am asking is who?
Is asking a simple question an attempt to smear the movement? (and to be blunt, I know it is, some people don't want anyone looking deeper into the OWS movement, but still, asking the question)
edit on 24-10-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ChesterJohn
They have a print button so you can print out a receipt so you can use it for your tax deduction. Is that Proof enough for you?
Originally posted by Shirak
Originally posted by ChesterJohn
They have a print button so you can print out a receipt so you can use it for your tax deduction. Is that Proof enough for you?
Hey man can you give me a few hungi real quick? It's for er food and blankets. No need to take down my name or who its going to on my honor ill be back with a receipt for the goods I purchase on behalf of the movement.
See any problem with this?
I have been in this position before where the people who feel entitled just expect those who are managing the resources to hand them over no questions asked.
Entitled and sometimes scammers.
If hte money request was legit he should have no problem filling out a form to say what for- who he is and contact details for follow up if an audit of the funds is requested.