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Originally posted by Drezden
Originally posted by Expat888
sounds more like self-defense.. Only in amerika defend yourself and end up being the one charged...
The "ladies" (using that term very loosely in their case) got what they deserved maybe next time they will think before they attack someone.
I've never worked at McDonald's but I guarantee he broke company policy.
Originally posted by MrWendal
I was finally able to watch the video and I am sorry to break the news to some of you....
THIS IS NOT SELF DEFENSE
So what is self defense in the eyes of the law?
Generally a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack. Nondeadly force can be used to repel either a nondeadly attack or a deadly attack. Deadly Force may be used to fend off an attacker who is using deadly force but may not be used to repel an attacker who is not using deadly force.
Now... at the point this man picked up a pole, that became deadly force to repel a nondeadly attack. Slapping someone in the face and coming at them with your fist, is not a deadly attack. Had this employee punched these girls straight in the mouth, that would be self defense. However that is NOT what happens here. After Girl A strikes the employee, he retreats and grabs a weapon.
Now one can still argue at that point that he did grab a weapon, it was still self defense. For all he knew it is completely reasonable to think they could possibly be armed. However once these girls were hit and on the ground, there was no longer any imminent threat to the employee at all. He had successfully defended himself and eliminated the threat to his person. However, his attack did not stop there. You can hear people yelling to stop as he continues to beat these women. It is at this point that "defending himself" no longer applies. It was at this point that he became the assailant and he broke the law.
These "ladies" (and I use that term very VERY loosely) clearly deserved to smacked around a bit, in my opinion they asked for it, but this man crossed the line from defending himself and being an attacker.
Originally posted by phantomjack
Once again, in case you missed it, he was convicted of MANSLAUGHTER, NOT MURDER. There is a difference.
That "murderer" didn't ATTACK anyone. He was attacked, he didnt attack. Again, there is a difference.
Give the guy a break and get off your white horse. He served his time. Give him credit for getting off his a$$ and going out and getting a job.
Or, are you one of those big corporation protestors who hate capitalism? This is all big McDonald's fault? Seriously?
Sounds like you have a problem with capitalism.
Lastly, I am sure two females were running their mouths while they were behind the counter getting hit. Probably unable to help themselves running their foul mouths at the guy and provoking him further. I doubt very much that the pipe in question hurt them much, as most of the hits were mostly body shots.
Originally posted by graphuto
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
LOL. Shouldn't go messing with people when you don't know who they are. Unlucky for them he was a convicted murderer.
True that man. I don't advocate beating someone like that, especially women, but still. Watch your mouth and don't be a jackass, and you won't get pwnd with a metal pole...
The female customers were charged with menacing, disorderly conduct and trespassing.
The owner of that McDonald’s said in a statement that she was “disturbed” by what happened and said the cashier is no longer employed there