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Originally posted by topherman420
Originally posted by ludshed
I thought 24 ended? Another season?
No it's the movie Unthinkable with Samuel L Jackson. Not a bad movie either.
Im curious as to what this experiment by the OP is going to accomplish. Whats the goal OP? Sounds like an intriguing start of a thread.edit on 13-10-2011 by topherman420 because: grammar gremlin made me do it
Unless I read the OP wrong, I'm assuming the event hasn't happened yet. No-one dies, you lose
Originally posted by seagull
The needs of the many, versus the rights of the few... That's a conundrum, indeed.
I can honestly say, I'd probably advocate the "by any means necessary" method. Might live to regret it later, should it turn out to be a false alert, but "better safe than sorry" is a truism for a reason.
...and yes, that might involve some form of torture. Not a pleasant thing to contemplate, but perhaps the lesser of two evils in a case like this...
Originally posted by MentalGiant
Cool Story, Bro.
What is your point? What are you really after? What would you do? The scenario you mention is a wild fantasy....
You have 2 hours
Originally posted by WhatTheory
This is basically the scenario from the movie "Unthinkable" with Samuel L. Jackson.
At least try and think of something original.
EDIT: Someone already mentioned the movie.edit on 10/13/2011 by WhatTheory because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
reply to post by Wookiep
Unless I read the OP wrong, I'm assuming the event hasn't happened yet. No-one dies, you lose
No, we know about it 2 hrs before SHTF. Do we:
A. Abide by the constitution(doing so would ensure everyones death since the perp is unwilling to tell and we cant force the info out of him)
B. Torture this sick puppy until he sings like a birdy(saving millions of lives)
Originally posted by Wookiep
reply to post by LogiosHermes27
Nah, you're baiting. We've seen it before. You're trying to justify why Barrack Obama decided to assassinate a U.S. citizen on foreign soil while having no weapons (especially uranium) in his possession at the time of the assassination. The guy should have had a trial under the rule of law, and that's that.
Your story is in NO way comparable anyway.edit on 13-10-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by grumpydaysleeper
You have to consider the fact that millions of lives are at stake.An unprecedented amount will be innocent children. I would have to say find out where the bombs are by any means necessary! As he is an American born terrorist in cahoots with the enemy---he's lost his rights.
He is also a traitor to his country!edit on 13-10-2011 by grumpydaysleeper because: (no reason given)
try and find a way to justify Barrack Obamas recent assassination
Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
Okay, I'll Play.
As an Obama supporter, I'd be thinking can we find the bombs in time? 'Yes We Can!!'
As a Ron Paul Fan, I think I would blame the Fed for this situation and demand an immediate Audit.
As a citizen, I'd bring his kid in and waterboard him in front of him. I'd probably then shoot his Mother and maim his wife until he confessed where the Bomb was.
But, let's be honest it aint gonna happen.
Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
Would you make a decision to torture him…not only him, but if it comes down to it to save 40million Americans, his children, his wife and his mother?
12PM SEPTEMBER 11,2012
You have 2 hours to make a decision, what will your decision be?
Torture is notoriously unreliable to begin with. And evil will always beget evil. So there would be no torture going on if I could make the decision.
Torture is simply not an acceptable option in any case.
Its really not a difficult decision to make. Basically it comes down the individuals principles that they live by, and specifically those whose principles are to not torture, and challenging them, tempting them, to give in and betray those principles for a reward; in this case, a small chance that some pertinent information would be released to supposedly save 40M lives.
Basically, its the "would you sell your soul if the price was high enough?" question.
My answer to that question, and to the quandary of would I betray my principles if the pay out was high enough, is always going to be NO. My principles are not up for sale or trade.edit on 10/13/2011 by CaticusMaximus because: (no reason given)